we come in with this fox news alert new reaction from the president after a
federal jury found his former campaign chairman Paul Manafort guilty on eight
counts of the 18 on bank fraud and tax fraud with a mistrial declared on those
other 10 mana fork could face a maximum of 80 years in prison
his sentencing is scheduled for a week from today
president Trump reiterated mana Ford and the case brought by robert muller have
nothing to do with mana Ford's work for the campaign watch it matter Ford's a
good man he was with Ronald Reagan he was with a lot of different people over
the years and I feel very sad about that
it doesn't involve me but I still feel when you know it's a very sad thing that
happens nothing to do with Russians illusion
this started as Russian collusion this has absolutely nothing to do is a
witch-hunt and it's a disgrace meanwhile yesterday is the president headed to
political rally in West Virginia top Senate Democrat Democrat Chuck Schumer
warned the president against any pardons of man afford or his former attorney
Michael Cohen I understand the president's on his way to a rally he
better not talk about pardons for Michael Cohen or poor Amana for tonight
or anytime in the future he better not that sounded like he could do something
about that Andy you know in all of this with Paul Manafort even the judge in the
case TS Ellis said we aren't going to discuss Russian collusion it is not part
of this case why hammer that point now if you're the
president and legal team what what is what are they trying to accomplish that
the judge already didn't accomplish for them i I really don't know I think it's
a mistake to keep hammering this because I I really think if you if you look
objectively at what's happened here I really don't think Muller is trying to
make a collusion case against the president
I think Muller is pursuing his original objective which is Russia's interference
in the election of which the collusion thing was one strand and my view of it
is he's interested in metaphor because of man afford not because of Trump and
collusion and the reason I say that is he's had gates as a cooperator for six
months there's nothing that man afford knows about Trump and Russia that Gates
doesn't know and yet what has happened since Gates been a cooperator he's
brought two indictments against groups of Russians that don't even hint that
there was any collusion in fact you reading the indictments suggest exactly
the opposite that the Russians were doing their own thing right yeah some
Americans in the last but but including a congressional candidate Murray it's
not the way you would tee it up if you thought that you were like on the verge
of breaking a big case of Trump and Russia that is not the way that it would
be done so I I think he's making a big mistake continually attacking Muller
because he's sort of begging for Muller to write a report that's that's gonna be
scathing you just to defend himself and it just
doesn't look like that from the outside but that's race I don't think so well
does it also accomplish I mean if the president is silent about it at this
point if these people in his constellation Cowen man afford and at
least mentioned a wider scope Chris Collins fortunately but you were saying
in terms of Republicans but I'm saying in terms of the president because
Collins and Duncan Hunter in that order were the first sitting members of
Congress to endorse the president so they are in the constellation of
conversation that we're talking about but if it really has nothing to do with
Muller's investigation why even bring it up well yeah I think I don't mean to
suggest that I don't think Muller is interested in Trump at all because I
think as to Trump it's an obstruction investigation not a collusion in the new
tweet the new narrative that you may have picked up it has nothing to do with
me right is what the president says and that you would say would be better
nomenclature better narrator it would certainly be better than than a full
frontal assault on the prosecutor who up until this point has not even hinted in
anything public that that Trump is involved in a corrupt way with Russia
but you've said that this is largely political for the president facing and
peanut charges as opposed to actually a legal liability so it does make sense
for president Trump to wage this PR battle against Muller because this is a
political fight this is a PR fight and that's what President Trump is doing
that we've seen in you know public polling has been different but we have
seen it going you know in different directions and people and so I think
pointing to the mana for case what President Trump can say and what Senator
Lindsey Graham tweeted out last night this has nothing to do with collusion
this has nothing to do no it has Mulder was originally charged with so I
actually am a president Trump is being smart from a PR standpoint and a
political stand let me just play the guy from you know you putting your lawyer
hat I would push back it just in this sense I agree with you that he's done a
public relations strategy because he's thinking about impeachment which is
about public opinion it's not about what happens in court but I think you have to
play out the whole chess game and whatever the polls look like now the
last word on this is going to be Muller's report that's right would it be
wrong for him to be swayed emotionally and well we talked about this once
before saying that you say anything in the
report that's untrue but you can write or does it you can write a report or you
can write a report sounds like spin to me no it's not so
it's how compellingly aggressively you argue the facts it's also worth
remembering that the next man up for trial that will be happening in DC is in
a large part about mana forts work with this pro-russian pro pro puttin
Ukrainian politician and party so we don't know and there are people that
have thought the very dirty former president exact crane politically it was
close with President Putin and with Russia and so the Russia guy that
Christopher Steele was Russia on behalf it looked like no it's not
former President Yanukovych no there is another guy but that Christopher steel I
was talking about Yanukovych palm Anna fort was lobbying for didn't report that
and there are people who have said that when Paul Manafort was running the
campaign the platform of the campaign became much more pro-russian much less
pro-ukrainian so I thought supportive issues are going to come up in the next
in the next track already learned even from this past trial just in terms of
that 58 or so million dollars that's where some of the money was coming from
because he was doing work for that right for that former president I'll be I'll
be interested I'll be interested to see if the trial happens though you know I
now why do you think a second because this is now the second time I've heard
this so why do you think that a second trial wouldn't well if what Muller if we
all are right that what Muller was trying to accomplish is to squeeze man
afford it looks to me like he's got him on 80 years of criminal exposure he's
got this D CK I don't think you'll appeal it because the Chinese are saying
he's going over his options now you can appeal it but look that that judge put
these prosecutors through the paces of all places yeah I gotta get a friendlier
judge so and then he's got the the DC case is a home game for mauler which
mana fort would have to be concerned about I'm sure II was happy that the the
Eastern District of Virginia case was first and then it's not like
mana Ford got acquitted yesterday he's got 10 more counts yeah Hockett that he
could retry if he wants it could definitely be squeezed there also it it
boggles my mind a little bit when people say the metaphor thing has nothing to do
with Russia because that's where the money originally came from and that's we
was working with originally so that's just it's
like that's that's what it all goes back to and you see through there how he
could have become vulnerable the question is then what did he do from
there and what did the president know about it if anything exact right and I
want to make sure we heard you correctly so the second trial might not happen so
what happens in its place well maybe he maybe he he decides to plead guilty and
cooperate with Muller which is what he's the the other thing is if he's thinking
of a pardon I think if I were thinking of a pardon the last thing I would want
is my misconduct to be a trial and I make the record worse yeah my Lenny
Davis says that Michael Cohen his client wouldn't take a pardon I don't know
where Paul manapouri broke at the same time that we don't think hold and the
reporting was it's likely because he may be ready to cooperate too so you've got
Michael Flynn Michael Cohen a couple of Michael's and Paul Manafort yeah yeah I
think Flynn's I think Flynn sentencing has been put off because if Mahler
agreed to sentence Flynn at this point it would signal that his investigation
is over which it's not yeah and that's what the paperwork said yeah it said
that we're not ready yet because we're not ready with okay I'm just right Wow
so much sadness now combining with outrage
police have revealed the suspect accused of murdering Iowa college student Molly
Tibbets was in our nation illegally for years President Trump mentioned this
case at his rally last night in West Virginia we'll talk about the effect and
the heated immigration debate stay close you heard about today with the illegal
alien coming in very sadly from Mexico and you saw what
happened to that incredible beautiful young woman
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