the security clearance showdown intensifies the feud between President
Trump and John Brennan rages on as the former CIA director says he's not
political Brennan also threatening legal action against the President to prevent
others from having their clearances pulled I am going to do whatever I can
personally to try to prevent these abuses in the future and if it do means
going to court I will I will do that I have seen the lights blinking red in
terms of what mr. Trump has done and is doing I think I need to speak out and so
I've been speaking out rather forcefully because I believe it's important to do
so I don't believe I'm being political at all
Trump is firing back on Twitter slamming Brennan as a quote political hack
meanwhile some former intelligence officials are blasting the former CIA
directors rhetoric and routine criticism of the president I think it is I think
mail John is sort of like a freight train and he's gonna say what's on his
mind but John and his rhetoric have become I think an issue in and of itself
he has been incredibly critical of the president and and I think that has put
him in a political place which actually does more damage for the intelligence
community which is a political okay so that's our former officials Brian
attracts us what I had been hearing as well that the intelligence community
writ large wishes that John Brennan had not gone out and done all of this
because if they think it's hurting the overall intelligence community and about
60/60 intelligence officials at first now it's in the triple figures I've come
out and said I don't think he should have been stripped that's fine however I
just thought it was stunning to me because I watched all the sunday shows
because I'm lonely and I will I heard Chuck Todd say listen if you didn't say
this if you didn't say crazy and if you weren't contacting them if they weren't
actually attacking them then I think that we wouldn't be at this place but
when you people hear you talk you have to understand that people look at you as
a CI a direct and that's it watch this this is what Bryan's talking about
do you regret essentially accusing the president of treason do you do you
regret some of the things you have said I called his behavior treasonous which
is to betray one's trust and to aid and abet the enemy and I stand very much by
that claim alright great what do you think well you're watching a lot of
people debate it it's not like they're mad that this guy's hurting the
intelligence community that's not the problem they're mad because they're
helping he's helping Trump yeah every time he
opens his mouth Trump looks better right now all of Brendan's allies are feeling
like this guy is betraying them by it with his stupidity do we have that clip
of Rachel Maddow there's a great clip of Maddow saying you okay yeah I left her
in my office you over here yeah but she basically says that you said his actions
were nothing short of treasonous and he said yeah but that's not treason and
she's like looking at him going like nothing short of treason but it's not
treason until you're seeing Rachel Maddow you're seeing clapper you're
seeing CNN and CNN all kind of backing away from Brennan as though he's like
that crazy pantless guy on the subway who's flinging feces at the families but
the other thing about this is most of America doesn't care about this stuff
and I say it a lot if America were this vast amusement park with all of these
wonderful things you can do right now the media is in the tiniest corner of
that amusement park on the teacups going around and around and around meanwhile
everybody else is summertime enjoyed Space Mountain this is just something
the waterfalls the waterfall water slides the waterpark the only reason why
this story exists is because of the times we live in right now which is that
we have peace breaking out all over we have an economic boom we don't have
enough people to fill jobs so we have this carnival sideshow on every show
because there's nothing else to talk about which is basically a good thing
right well good thing comes around-- Muller a
little bit and that is real and people should pay attention to that because
even if you don't it's gonna hit you no I was in the rural South for ten days so
here's what I heard from everybody I talked to why in the hell does a
professional political bloviator still have a security clearance if he's not
working within the government with more than five million security clearances
still out there I think a lot of these former
professionals are upset that Brennan's blown up the gray
be trained because they're carrying these security clearances outside of
government it makes them more valuable does it not and that guys it only does
if you are actually working on like if you're like working with a defense
contractor maybe it makes you more but it may it makes you a little - I think
it is I think reputation wise yes it probably stings a little bit but more on
manly way in yet and it's five minutes in no I just I don't I don't think it
makes you all that much i saw the president said that today he said that
it's financially to their advantage to keep it what strikes me is that they're
not backing away from Brennan I think even when you hear people say he's like
a freight train which is what clapper said the guy's like a freight train in
terms of his criticism he says he opposes a revocation of the clearance
you can have you couldn't believe both things yeah well I'm just saying so I
don't think it's the matter of backing away from I think what people are saying
is and this is the most troubling to me is that there is now a breach between
the President of the United States and the intelligence community and so you
may say oh well that doesn't matter I don't believe this is what they're
saying that that's what they're saying it's not me saying if that's what
they're saying that is not a good thing for any president that's not good it's
like it I find that alarming because I think down the road you have to have
trust and norms in order to have a society to have a government and I think
those are being eroded well yeah I guess the administration should trust Brennan
there's no political immunise don't have to make out an enemies list and remind
us and he is kind of an enemy all right okay I could bring up one thing oh we
have this list Michael Hayden Sally Yates Susan Rice Andrew McKay Peter
struck Lisa Paige Bruce or ORS on his way out Lisa Paige Peter struck have
been basically fired or canned and Sally Yates as well and Andrew McCabe the
others Lee Malone use this as an opportunity to go ahead and re-examine
this whole issue in fact the point the point a coordinate and put a panel
together of gates Mullen and keen General King that looks at this and cuts
back with a report in six months and we were visited wouldn't that make the
world a better place well I don't know as long as you're here
I'm not so sure it's hard to make this world a better
place newsmen part I do you know what I don't know Pirates of the Caribbean all
right maybe I don't really go in there light it's always too long
yes Allah knows he's imitating he's in the hall the president what worries me
is ok so it's kind of like during the Clinton era which was before 9/11 you
know we were obsessed and I'm dealing with scandals in the and we're and what
was going on in the Oval Office and in Monica Lewinsky so we're here dealing
with all this like small ball stuff to quote Juan Williams from his latest
column and what could have what could be going on what could be being planned
right now that we aren't aware of because we were diverted were diverted
to this stuff it's we're gonna talk really a nice calm peace time a time of
peace and what some 2001 I mean yes the DNI Dan Coates said in testimony in
front of Congress just three weeks ago that you always have to be having like
be more creative than the terrorists and I'd be focused on that and it feels a
little bit like that time well and but this is why Trump supporters don't have
a problem with the Brennan security clearance being revoked because again
what he's under scrutiny what was his role in opening the investigation of the
Trump campaign in any relationship with Russia what was his role in using
partisan funded research paid for by the Clintons to get a surveillance warrant
aren't an American citizen he's been very critical Brennan of the House
Intelligence Committee work why is that President Trump has an option The Wall
Street Journal editorial page wrote about it last week is just open the box
and let everybody see all of the intelligence let's find out what yeah
that's what the journal said in to pick up on that but dagan it what the present
it had nothing to do with anything you decided he just said this guy is
reckless I think what did in the language manic
erratic but the real point is and I think that's why you've seen such a
unanimous response from the intelligence community is that this is about
punishing a critic the the was spurious but the end result was
right that's what Andy McCarthy wrote he said I just don't you use the word
spurious and he didn't and I have to say that isn't actually we're gonna find out
later according to Greg Gutfeld if Andy had an option to use that word
doesn't even know what it meant revoking Brendon security clearance the right
thing even if for the wrong reason that was it
I like spurious I think the price is pretty good alright we have more new
following after a report reveals Robert Miller's team interviewed White House
cancelled on McGann in the Russia Pro president from reaction Mets president
Trump lashing out at the Muller probe after New York Times report reveals
White House Counsel Don McGann is cooperating with the investigation the
president slamming the special counsels team has quote angry Democrat thugs who
reportedly met with McGann for over 30 hours in the Russia probe all with the
president's blessing Trump also accused the investigators of trying to tilt the
midterms while blasting them as quote a national disgrace meanwhile his lawyer
Rudy Giuliani firing back against the report this is a desperate special
counsel who leaked this to the New York Times illegally I might add
it could be McGann and McGann's not doing it and he would have done it a
long time ago if he was gonna do it they're down to desperation time
desperation time diggin o Lord you came to me first no not a desperation time
I'm gonna cite a Wall Street Journal editorial earlier today cuz Dana already
quoted some of it on her show earlier but they point out that McGann's
own attorney William Burke said on the record that he only cooperated after
President Trump waived any privileged claims right which is something that
Bill Clinton he president Trump's getting no credit for waiving that
waiving that claim when Bill Clinton fought it tooth and nail to avoid his
aides from testifying both Sidney Blumenthal and Bruce Lindsey just to
name two examples so in this instance with the with waiving privilege McGann
would have to answer the special counsels questions in every single one
of them because he can't cite privilege alright so but Dana the thing is McGann
was there for 30 hours and now you what you get the president's lawyer saying
case and Giuliani we don't know exactly well
so I know bill Burke very well we work together at the White House for full
disclosure and I mean I know the issue of executive privilege very well because
we had to fight it when the Democrats took over in 2006 well in oh seven oh
eight they have called us up everybody they want to put everybody under oh they
want to put everybody under a subpoena including Josh Bolten the chief of staff
etc and you had to decide each time are you going to assert privilege which is
why in the New York Times article Bill Burke says that he went back to the
president's initial lawyers and said are you sure that the president doesn't want
to assert any privilege on this and like nope fine but remember the other thing
is the first lawyers are overheard at a steak house shooting the breeze and
talking about how they're gonna hang it all on Don Magan if it all goes bad and
began says well that's like I actually didn't think it was a good idea in the
first place the Trump says go talk to Miller do whatever you have to do I
don't think it matters thirty hours I actually think what if I were the
White House you might think well he was there for thirty hours he answered a lot
of questions McGann's been there ever since doing the work of the president
doing the good work for him presumably if he felt he couldn't work for the
president he would have left because he's a principled person so I don't
think this I think this is much ado about nothing at this point and Greg
what do you think about Democrat thugs well I think he's right Donald Trump
compared this probe to McCarthyism but he had the wrong McCarthy it's not Joe
McCarthy it's Charlie McCarthy what you have a bunch of dummies the strings are
being pulled by a bunch of overheated acts in the media can I quote Andrew
McCarthy do it it may be a really good point which is that if Trump's actions
are lawful which it looks like that's what's gonna happen
you cannot question the motivations behind it because then that's nothing
more than mind-reading if if Trump's head if it fits all in Trump's head but
his actions are clear then you've got nothing and that's a pretty compelling
point to make which is why you see on Morning Joe now they're talking once
again about Trump being mentally unwell he's got some kind of you know mental
derangement he's incapable but what does that say about Joe Scarborough if
somebody who is mentally unstable is running circles around you
you must have end-stage dementia is it they overslept and didn't have time to
do any reading work so they just go on it but let's
let's say Miller comes back and he says cleared no collusion and then of course
the white house is gonna be very happy about that
it's like I told you so all along but the Democrats will start saying it was
rigged because Muller is a Republican and Miller did all of this and doesn't
miss it that might never end there'll be trouble but just by the way when is Joe
Scarborough on because it seems to me that Greg grew up a fan of Fox and
Friends and now suddenly you've changed as you've gotten older and I'm just
wondering what's why are you watching him or what I digress what mornings with
Maria you know I like to look at the competition to see what they're doing
we're not doing and also they make me laugh yeah but Greg two things that we
found out they do want they do know maybe bill Burke would tell you
something different than the New York Times god no no no but I have not talked
to him about this case right they say they call me there was a very
interesting they call me firing who would have thought and he was very
interested in and why he had such a preference for Jeff Sessions not to
recuse himself Wow talk about coming out of left field but
but here's what happened I think if I understood John Roberts report well and
I used to do very well in reading comprehension a you should not do well
in math which would balance each other out so my scores would be average we get
my reading was strong okay so he came out and said this he came out and said
today the reason why would you know that school why duh
school the reason white doubt came out and did this is because he wanted to
talk to everybody and they said what if we give him again and he says really
you're gonna give him me instead of everybody so he thought bergs night we
got to prepare ourselves to get thrown out of the bus and then they were not to
say and this one I thought was key as months passed it became apparent them
again and Burke had overestimated the amount of thought that went into the
president saying go talk to him they have no master plan to throw him out of
the bus he just said go talk to him I have nothing to hide well so he just
thinks he has done nothing wrong and he thinks it in fact it will say to his
supporters I've got nothing to hide I'm telling people go ahead and talk there's
pretty much with Ty Cobb and yeah this but that's why Ty Cobb and others have
gotten few agree 9 would you like to general a strategy you like the dad well
that's the problem with the Giuliani strategy is that today the headlines is
all about truth is and truths right no but the thing is well I mean I
okay I'm gonna be the broken record here you go from a can you got Muller you got
man up for it yeah if you read these names to the
American public you could be reading the members of a New Zealand cricket team
nobody it's just like we do it on the show I'm trying to subliminally tell
them did the producers let stories yeah yeah well let me ask about another
member of that cricket team Michael Cole and there you go so apparently now the
pressure is rising on Cowan and the threat here is that he knows so much
about the operations of the Trump business empire as well as Trump
personally and this is Lanny Davis Lanny Davis lives to serve Hillary Clinton the
way give back to Hillary Clinton is to get Michael Cohen to agree that he has
no other options but to find out everything that's out Trump did from
walking in against traffic to buying a casino or forgetting to pay for it so
all of a sudden throw that out there to get him in trouble letting Davis would
have no problem telling Michael Cohen to do all that well Michael Michael Cohen
used to be loyal to this president and the president values loyalty above all
though I think this tweet storm is like the marketing campaign leading up to the
decision that President Trump is not going to talk about Moller it seems like
the devil that's what the mechanics pose you're in this story say what did he
what can I say that he didn't say as the White House that's me I can lie to you
lie to you all day long which makes me think that the who is not
leaked by the Muller probe the mullah probems nothing to gain by this coming
in I don't think it's more leaking well that's what you said firstly complained
about the leak is usually the leak well let me just say I think it's gonna be a
lot of stormy weather in the politics of late August the feud between Democratic
New York Governor Cuomo and president Trump escalating the latest on their
potential 2020 showdown when we return on the 5:00
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