after michael cohen leaked Trump's private phone call to CNN trump
embarrassed him as I'm sure you've heard by now CNN obtained audio of President
Trump's private phone call with his former lawyer Michael Cohen
this was leaked to them by either Cohen or someone else but it was aired on live
TV last night the edited and muddled audio clip is not incriminating and was
not the bombshell CNN figured it would be but President Trump just responded to
it this morning uh-oh President Trump might know
something about the rest of this tape and the other tapes yet to come could he
have leaked at himself many believe Michael Cohen was pressured into turning
president Trump by Bob Mueller who is trying to flip everyone around the
president against him but President Trump won't back down and he doesn't
seem worried because he knows he did nothing wrong
Fox News legal expert Gregg Jarrett confirmed this saying this conversation
President Trump had with his lawyer was completely standard and no laws were
broken late last night President Trump's new lawyer Rudy Giuliani responded to
the tape on the Laura Ingraham show reiterating that this tape is a big
nothing bigger joining us now on the phone is Rudy Giuliani personal attorney
for President Trump speaking with us exclusively after the release of this
recording mayor Giuliani thank you so much for
checking in with us tonight first of all your reaction to this tapes release well
I think it's first of all the major point is it's outrageous that someone
would tape his client surreptitiously and number two it's also foolhardy for
them to try to kind of yell and scream and make believe what's on the tape I
agree with you the tape it's a little bit hard to hear but I assure you that
we listen to it numerous numerous times and the transcript makes it quite clear
at the end that President Trump says Oh don't pay with cash cohen dan interrupts
and says no no no I got it and then you hear distinctly if you're careful and
you slow it down check and then Cohen follows with no no no and then quickly
cuts off the tape which indicates exactly what's there she was saying that
Cohen doesn't want the rest of the court because it was to expel Satori from the
point of view of the press there's no way the president is gonna be talking
about setting up a corporation and then using cash
unless you're that's complete idiot any presidents not really there's a moment
tonight on CNN where where Lonny Davis he kept saying well we are going we're
showing you that what Giuliani claimed that Michael Cohen was the one who
brought up the issue of cash not his client Donald Trump we're showing you
with this tape that it was Trump who brought it up so he seemed to say that
the release of the tape Rudy was because of you and what you said well the fact
is that the president does bring up cash but he says don't pay with cash and then
Cohen says no no no and the president says check and then Cohen says I got it
point if the president want the transaction to be memorial Rudy there
was a some concern about the decision to waive privilege in this case a lot of
legal commentators we just talked to Dershowitz so that's that's all well and
good that's all well and good for them to say that but the reality is that the
tape was leaked not by us nobody believes that
last week we were treated to how we leaked it which Jay and I were laughing
about Jay Sekulow this was leaked on us with a very very scurrilous description
of what was on this day probably by the same people who are lying on CNN and we
had it we had to correct the record so we have no problem making this limited
release because it is it is collaborative of the president's
statement now are so are you still maintaining then tonight that the
recording that was released this evening is 100
sent exculpatory toward the president in his previous statements about this I
think your two guests just said that there's no indication of any crime being
committed on this state and that is absolutely right so that is why we go
ahead now the the you know what the left is gonna say you know what they do
they've been doing it for months that the president gave the impression that
he didn't know about any of these transactions that this was this might
have been happening but he didn't know about the comment on Air Force One saw
references in in the previous statement he said I didn't know but it sounds like
he knew that something was being set up to perhaps buy the rights to this
MacDougal story correct no in fact if you go back a little further on the
prints because I don't get the whole thing Cohen says did we need financing
and the president spent wait a second what for anthing then he asked explain
it the President did not know about this before this conversation at least with
regard to the transaction that we're talking about I mean he may have he may
or may not have known about the Google's claims I don't know that but he didn't
know about he didn't know about this transaction this is the conversation in
which they talk about how they're going to buy the rights and the rights people
have to understand who are watching tonight the rights to this story from
the National Enquirer the company that owns a National Enquirer were never
purchased so that transaction did not go to that's another thing that's absurd
about this what it makes clear is this is at most an attempt to do something I
don't know of any attempt in this category of of crime that they're
looking at so in any event I don't think anyone can suggest that this represents
anything where the present did anything wrong and that's the reason why we
waived it would we have put it out had it not been leaked no we would not have
put it out had it not been leaked but it was being leaked visiting our time under
very very false which false statements being made about it which even a word
they're the ones you're hearing now were you given were you given a heads-up Rudy
that this was coming out tonight at all or was this a surprise to you yes what
found out at six o'clock the staff business and look we've been over the
tape over the weekend about five times what I urge people to do is just go on
and on wine listen to your broadcast you played the tape plenty of three times
the third time you play it'll become clear I bet dates even longer than Alan
Dershowitz how about four thousand hours of mafia people on tapes I know how to
listen to them I know how to transcribe this tape is crystal clear when you
listen to it I've dealt with much worse shape than this are you concerned that
there are other recordings out there between Cohan and the President as a
lawyer as someone who's dealt with people have been in a lot of trouble
before just like you have Rudy the idea of a lawyer taping a client is I think
it takes your breath away but you know are there other tapes that you're aware
of what would you release them yourself today today someone was leaking from I'm
sure their side it can't be ours that there were 12 tapes of Cohan with the
President may have been avenatti somebody else don't quote me on that
he's leaked things like there are a lot more tapes with the President and dursa
which yesterday asked him how because it would be illegal for him to have that
information and unethical but in any event there are no other takes with the
president we have all the tapes in our possession we have transcripts of all of
them we're comfortable with them and there are no there are no others now
Rudy you've known Lanny Davis a long time and like I've known him going back
20 years during the Clinton saga do you do you have any thoughts about his
decision to represent Michael Cohen given his long ties to the Clintons no
not at all I don't have any any any any concerns about that he's a lawyer he has
a right to represent who we want and Michael has a right I question the
strategy of doing this of trying to make a tape stay what it doesn't say or if
putting out a tape in which you're kind of proud of the fact that you're a
lawyer taping your client and then thinking you could cooperate with the
government you know to cooperate with the government you've got to have
credibility first thing that happens is this guy's
gonna be disbarred I mean it's ridiculous he's a pariah to the legal
profession there was a moment tonight on CNN I'm gonna play it for you Rudy we're
Chris Cuomo actually asks about this recording and whether it might taint the
entire substance of it let's watch listen this recording could be argued to
be fruit of the poisonous tree that as counsel Michael Cohen shouldn't have
been recording his counsel his client van Donald J Trump now President Trump
how do you get past that that this whole thing can't look good for Cohen cuz he
should have never done it well I'm not gonna shift the topic it's up to mr.
Cohen to explain why he was taping so he didn't want to go this is great what if
I get was dead it's up to the President to explain that just look that's his
lawyer being interviewed by Cuomo and he throws the ball to his client I mean if
this is crazy representation have you ever heard of anything like this you put
out a tape of your client you then make believe it says something it doesn't say
believe me there were three other versions of this before we got to this
one that were even worse and the transcript belies that if you analyze it
have the patience to analyze it don't become like forgetting about it and now
we saying well you know give the ball to give the ball through to my client so
you're mean I don't mean to harp on the Clinton you know connection here but it
is interesting that Cohen chooses the longtime confidant booster defender of
the Clintons after everything that happened during the campaign to
represent him here I mean was he was he I mean you know this how this deal goes
really was he was Cohen trying to send some kind of message to the president
you know look out here we come and you better watch out I mean it's an odd
choice of lawyer in my view it's an odd choice well I don't know I can't comment
on that Laura I don't know Eddie you know someone else and interfering with
like the counsel if I do that I don't want to do that and I just question the
whole tactic and nice comment tonight shifting the thing
to cold instead of throwing them on the bus and Rudi finally here you got to be
able to answer this you gotta be able to answer via client or not answer at all
and and finally Rudi on on the issue of talking to Muller special counsel here
the reports came out that you all will talk about collusion and nothing else
there any developments on that that you can tell us tonight oh no I think we've
been distracted the last couple days and they've been distracted with the with
the they're getting ready for the metaphor case so I you know we'll
probably get an answer in the next hopefully next couple of days a week all
right Rudy Giuliani we really appreciate writing us tonight
exclusively thank you so much
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