DONALD TRUMP DROPS A MASSIVE B0MB ON ROBERT MUELLER, HE IS FINISHED
well as Democrats usher in a new power shift in Congress last night incoming House Judiciary
Committee Chairman Jared Matt Jerry Nadler introduced a bill that
would block President Trump from firing special counsel robert muller this on the heels of
newly elected House Speaker Nancy Pelosi saying the president's office
does not necessarily protect him from indictment let's bring in Tom
Dupree former Deputy Assistant Attorney General under president george w bush Tom always great
to have you on the program a couple couple questions for you
first of all Democrats clearly day one they make a move to protect robert
muller in this new congress what does this tell you about where this investigation goes
in the new year absolutely look senator this is not a surprise
at all the Democrats were always very open about what they plan to
do if they were to seize power in the house and I think this bill is the first and what
will likely be a long series of Muller protection measures intended to
protect the special counsel in the investigation from trunk termination in my opinion oh I
think it's unnecessary I think the president is beginning a lot of
advice good advice in my view not to fire Bob Muller so I think it's an open
question as to whether this measure is even needed and I don't think it has much of a
chance of making it all the way through the Senate in a joint statement
Nadler along with jackson lean and cohen yesterday released the
following statement quote as the special counsel announces new indictments and guilty pleas
from Trump's closest allies and associates it's clear that the threat
to the Moller investigation will only grow stronger that is their
forecast this is called the special counsel independence and integrity Act it would also
by the way Tom give spent the special counsel written notice of removal
and the opportunity to challenge the move in court obviously with a
republican-controlled Senate it's unlikely that they'll take this bill up but they talked
about it and warned of what they called questionable intentions of
Whittaker I mean I just wonder I wonder if they're gonna get anywhere
with this well I don't look I think they're doing this for political reasons and as you
point out this legislation has a lot of very curious stuff in it including
the ability for Bob Muller if you were terminated to
go into a federal court and litigate whether his termination was unlawful I think this
raises pretty deep constitutional questions any time you place
restrictions on a president's ability to hire and fire members at the
executive branch you start getting into very gray constitutional areas but look as I said
I think that this is the first and what will likely be many attempts by the Democrats to
make political statements to try to insulate Muller I don't think it's
necessary and even as this investigation starts to reach its end
they say that the heat will be turned up on the president I guess the other way to look
at it is the investigation presumably will also be nearing its end
point and so I think there'll be a lot of sense from the president just to say let Muller
play this string outlets in this let's put it all behind us and move
on one more question to you on Nancy Pelosi was asked about the possibility of indictment
of the president she says he's not immune she basically left it open-ended
do you agree with the fact that the president is not immune from
indictment look I think that what Nancy Pelosi seems to be overlooking here is the fact that
the Justice Department going all the way back to the days of Richard
Nixon going up through Bill Clinton under Republican and Democratic
administrations alike they have all concluded that you cannot indict a sitting president
that the constitutionally prescribed the remedy for
presidential misbehavior is the impeachment process it's not indicted a
sitting president I think what speaker Pelosi is saying is well the Supreme Court hasn't
weighed in true enough but the fact that Bob mower has indicated that
he will respect DOJ guidance and not seek to indict President Trump I
think really closes the book on this question she says I think that that is an open discussion
in terms of the law quite clearly you disagree with that Tom Dupre
great to have you this morning Thank You Sandra well right we are just learning as I touched
on in the prior segment here that a federal grand jury in Washington
DC which special counsel Muller's team has been using has been extended the original
cover of 18 months expired today we're told it was extended by an additional
six months there's no way to confirm that but sources in the
courthouse are telling our producers there that the extension is for another six months
typically a grand jury term caps out at 24 months so this is going on
for 18 months so that would mean at the very least that this investigation
will go into the summer and that's just when when it's wrapped up it doesn't necessarily
mean the full report and the full findings are released but it does give
you a sense that this could drag on a while ratchet now from Democratic
strategists crit see Southside and The Wall Street Journal's Dan and Dan what do you think
I suppose Neill it doesn't necessarily mean that it's going to extend
out for six months but it is obviously going to go forward now and
you know a couple things here Neil this is the problem with special prosecutors this
is that we used to have an Independent Counsel law back in the Reagan
years Congress ended the Independent Counsel law because these investigations tend to go
on forever years and years and the Independent Counsel
our special prosecutor there is a question of accountability and I would
say here Neil if this thing starts dragging on that once the new Attorney General hopefully
is confirmed William bar I think Attorney General bar Deputy Attorney
General Rod Rosenstein probably should call in robert muller and ask him
to explain exactly what he has and what is going on rather than let this thing simply
extend indefinitely into the future hanging over the american system as
it has for the past 18 months Chrissy what do you think I I think that's
amazing this has been an amazingly successful investigation so far by Muller in that he
has received already five guilty pleas not indictments guilty pleas
from former Trump advisors who are actually quite close to the president of
course including Michael Cohen Paul Manafort and right so of course this is going to keep
going because it seems the way that Muller has conducted his investigation thus far has
been that he's sort of if you think of it about of you know concentric
circles around the president he started with people who are not all
that close to the president now we're sort of zeroing in on the people who are closest
to him were finally sort of getting more and more information about what
our actions that say Don jr. may have taken or Jared Kushner the
president and his family right you can't dog's jaw now right before we're actually getting
information you can also flip it around to see yeah that to use
the president's parlance it's which on they're still they need more time to
get more stuff because they don't have enough stuff you say I say that's again ironic when
you look back at let's say the Bill Clinton impeachment that was because
there wasn't actually anything around whitewater they had to go to the
fact that he had this affair with an intern in the Oval Office that's immoral but not
illegal Moeller has turned over all kinds of actually
illegal criminal activity but I just want to explain the crissy of it
that that Clinton investigation veered while of course from real estate land deals to obviously
a relationship with an inert and is you I raised for you Dan is
it this goes beyond the original finding Russian collusion or anything
like that into business deals that might go back you know quite some time decades even
this is more potentially at the time requested and it might not be the full
six months it might just be extended into something else right well
that is complete conjecture I mean now all we can do is guess I mean these convictions
that Christie was mentioning mostly have been for very low level people
for lying to the FBI not for any Christian apart was about Ukraine had
nothing to do with the Trump camp there were 18 criminal charges so obviously some of them
actually did have to do it this is a sign that obviously he's not ready
to wrap this up and tie it in a bow tie and it's six months bored
conjecture like this going back and forth I cannot imagine that's going to be a
very productive environment in the meantime right well it simply allows you the possibility
of Mullah report leading to a basis for the Democrats
to of file impeachment charges against the president something that's
been hanging over the President's head now for the last 18 months and here you've got
you know people in both parties claiming that they want to get on
with the nation's business meanwhile Robert Mahler is standing there by this
deus ex machina hanging over the entire system when is it going to end Neal all
right we shall see you guys I want to thank you sort of going a little long there all
right it's day five hundred and ninety five of the Muller witch-hunt and
the host John Solomon out with a huge bombshell report tonight excope
Ettore russia evidence about michael Flynn that the US Intel kept secret John Solomon
reporting on Rudy Giuliani's call for Muller to be investigated over obstruction
of justice president's attorney former New York City Mayor Rudy
Giuliani joins us for our Hannity deep state watch tonight mr. mayor how are you welcome
back I wish I wish I had that ring by the way that you have observed
all right so let me start with this first report which is Muller's
should be investigated for the destruction of evidence ken starr agrees with you as well
and that is the erased text messages of the lead investigators at
the start of this investigation well this would be a massive scandal if it
happened to us if it happened if we were producing documents for them only said oh we have 19
thousand texts right a relevant period that the relevant period that
we had that we had erased it was erased by Mahler by the way was erased
by mullahs record officer who claims that he or she looked at them and they don't consent
contain anything pertinent now how can that be struck in Page would text
me every day about how much they hated Trump how much they wanted to get
him out how much they wanted to stop him how they had an insurance policy to get him out
all of a sudden they went to work for Muller and they stopped texting back
and forth it makes no sense what makes sense to me is there are some
highly damaging texts about the about the way this investigation began as a completely
illegitimate attempt to destroy Donald Trump this is an investigation
in search of a crime and they haven't found one yet coercion is
not a crime it's not rape always not a crime firing call me is not a crime the
campaign contributions are not criminal they're not even a violation of the campaign finance
law they're paying off a possible civil judgment this is makeup a
crime make up a crime make up a crime hoping to find one eventually and they
get everybody on press and then they and then they frame certain people look look what they
did to Flint well they did this is outrageous he told them something
they had the paper in their drawers no we'll buy the paper you mean
the transcript the transcript they surveilled him they amassed him they leaked raw intelligence
if they were searching for the truth they'd have put that
in front of him and said general does this refresh your recollection I
know this game I used to play it a lot more ethically than they do but it's even worse
than that because you had the deputy FBI director McCabe say oh you don't
need a lawyer and then you had the FBI director said oh what's four days
into the Trump administration we're not gonna follow the normal process and go through the
White House Council we think we can get away with it that's not experienced
enough Wow get away with what for Dad away with unethical
behavior possibly illegal behavior totally reprehensible behavior on the part of a prosecutor
if general Flynn was sympathetic to the liberal media they'd
be outraged about this they'd be demanding that this case be dismissed
just to teach the prosecutor a lesson well Hillary ever get in trouble for the violations
of the Espionage Act will she ever get in trouble for the destruction obstruction
of justice by destroying subpoenaed emails will the
FISA we know now that the top officials in the FBI and DOJ lied and presented unverified
right information to FISA Court judges to obtain a warrant on a trip
that those four affidavits of false they're false affidavits what would
happen if I did that you'd be under investigation possibly indicted by now would you if you're
my lawyer could you get me off I don't think so not unless
there was one an explanation I didn't know about but the reality is it has to be investigated
and it's not being investigated and has to be investigated for
wiping out those tags at an extremely relevant period of time they say it's part of the Justice
Department retention policy garbage it's not part of the justice but
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