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GAME OVER! Some House Dems BETRAYS Pelosi & SUPPORT Trump's Wall! President Trump WINS HUGE
welcome back president Trump doubles down on his demands for a border wall as
he calls on Democrats to restart negotiations on funding the government
past February 15th a new number of House Democrats appear to be supporting the
idea of at least a vote on wall funding one of them joins me right now Utah
Democratic congressman ben mcadams he's a member of the House Financial Services
Committee and the Blue Dog Coalition congressman it's nice to have you on the
program this morning thanks so much for being here Thank You Maria good to be
with you you were among 30 House Democrats who sent Nancy Pelosi a letter
urging her to give Trump a vote on the wall funding tell me what you think
would come out of that vote you know first and foremost what the the purpose
of that letter was to say that the shutdown is doing no good for anybody
we're harming the US economy we're risking a recession we're harming the
federal employees who are just working to put food on the table and let's open
the government there are processes in the in the Congress in our government
laid out by the founders to have debates like this that's what Congress has
intended to do so let's open the government and then let's have this
negotiation the president has a proposal that should be heard in the Congress we
should debate it and we should work to build common ground and try and move
forward a solution on border security on immigration reform and let's go through
the proper channels of the Congress that that are built and intended to have this
exact conversation but let's not do it in the context of a shutdown that harms
the American people that harms our economy and risks the pocketbooks of
every American what I'm trying to better understand is really the makeup of the
new Congress because of course we know that there's a pocket of Democrats who
just want the president out and much of it is politics and they are resisting
anything that he would like we know that Nancy Pelosi and many of her colleagues
voted for a wall and voted for wall fencing years ago many times we know
that there's a wall right now a border wall in Nancy Pelosi zone state of
California separating Tijuana and San Diego but because President Trump has
the idea it's resist resist resist so you come from a red state you beat out
your your opponent on the Republican side do you think
a movement within your new Congress to actually get things done putting
politics aside and not necessarily resisting everything the president says
because you don't like his personality absolutely you know there are a lot of
me and my colleagues who were elected this last year a lot of us are just
pragmatist who just want to get something done before I was elected to
Congress I was a mayor and mayor's just have this attitude of okay what can we
do to move forward to solve the problem as a Democrat in a very red state I
never got anything done unless I could reach out and build bridges across the
aisle so as long as the debate is focused on you know as long as we're
defining a win is meaning somebody else loses we're never gonna have consensus
so we've got to find that win win and I don't know at this time what the win
looks that win win looks like but we have to find it and I know that a lot of
my freshman colleagues are moderates who want to find that win win that probably
we should look at some things to address immigration reform and dreamers I think
is something important permanent protections for dreamers but also border
security as a mayor I saw illegal drugs and and the impacts of that in my in my
city and I want to do more to stop the flow of illegal drugs into the end of
the country so I think there's a lot of common ground and I think the way to
approach this and the way that I would approach it if I was mayor is to say you
know there's a conversation a debate about wall or no wall let's step back
from that conversation where there's it's divided divisive and let's talk
about what we have in common let's find that thread of commonality amongst
Republicans and Democrats I think the threat of commonality is we all want to
protect the border we can find common ground on that so in some places that's
going to mean technology other places in other ways immigration reform and in
some places it may mean a barrier and I think if we step back and reframe the
conversation about protecting the border and what can we do and what's the most
effective way to do that instead of debating a wall or no wall let's debate
border security and I think there's a lot of common ground yeah I think you
make a lot of good points because there are areas of the country where they're
wide open and perhaps maybe you don't need an actual fence or wall there
because you can use technology and drones they're wide open areas that if
illegals come in you can actually apprehend them easily because it's so
wide open but then there are areas like the wall we've been looking
at in Nancy Pelosi state separating Tijuana from San Diego where you have a
very dense population three million people on one side of the wall through a
Tijuana another three million people on the other side of the wall in San Diego
so what is your thoughts in terms of how much is needed for actual barrier on the
southern border and will you vote YES for wall creation and more wall
extension of what we're seeing in this picture so what I've tried to do is not
draw any lines in the sand I want to vote to say have border protection to
have border security to reduce the flow of drugs and evil even illegal
immigration that may include a barrier sure I wouldn't rule out
barriers and places where it's appropriate I think that's I think
that's acceptable but let's have this conversation in the context of committee
hearings at the Congress with a goal of finding common ground I also think one
of the things we can do to protect the border is to reduce illegal immigration
by fixing a broken immigration system if we can make sure that those good people
who are who are just looking for a job our economy is asking to brainian
workers let's find it let's make it easier for them to immigrate legally so
they're not tempted to cross the border illegally so I think part of it part of
the border part of the border protection strategy has to be fixing a broken
immigration system our laws do you feel that you have a voice I mean I know that
you did not support Nancy Pelosi's bid to become the speaker for a second time
do you feel like you're being listened to you will you have the influence with
these practical ideas that you're putting forth I think so I mean we're
just up getting up and going as a congress right now I've been pleasantly
surprised at people both on the Republican side and even more
progressive on the Democratic side who who I felt that my voice is welcome
let's let's hope that as we go into this negotiation people can allow all voices
to be at the table some of the pragmatists can on both
sides of the aisle again can really push for common ground and trying to find
that you know that solution that will really garner a majority of support in
Congress and help us to to reopen the border I'm somebody who you know we're
gonna have disagreements from time to time but once one disagreements behind
us we move to the next issue we try and find common ground we
don't carry baggage forward for debate to debate and that's how I'd go into
this the same way we've got that behind us let's go further disagreements that
are also radical on the economic side of things you're on the Financial Services
Committee what are your thoughts on Elizabeth Warren's idea to confiscate
income to put attacks on overall assets and wealth or Alexandrian costea's idea
of having a seventy percent tax rate for the top earners well I think I've
jokingly said before if you if people think that there are only two political
parties in this country watch the Financial Services Committee over the
next several years you're gonna see a broad array of people across the
political spectrum you're gonna see someone on the more progressive side
like representative Ocasio Cortez myself who's you know a moderate a centrist
that believes in in the power of business and markets properly regulated
of course to make sure their protections for for consumers and individuals that
the power of markets can really do a lot of good and has done all that force high
earners to hide income where you won't get the revenue anyway will it change
behavior in terms of philanthropy will it what do you think that does to an
economy if you see those kinds of tax rates seventy percent tax on on assets
and wealth I'm not kidding you know I'm not convinced that a seventy percent tax
rate is the way to go any time you have you know tax policy drives behavior and
so we you know that's not a direction I think we should go in as a country I
we should look you know what's what behavior are we in trying to drive and
what is good for the American economy and good for the American people I'm
sure when you make a lot of good points we so appreciate your time this morning
thank you sir Thank You Maria congressman ben mcadams there president
Trump and Democrats reaching a three-week deal to end the longest
government shutdown in history it does not include funding for a border wall as
the president had demanded House Minority Whip Louisiana Republican
Congressman Steve Scalise joins me right now and Congressman it is a pleasure to
see you thanks so much for joining us good morning Maria always great to be
back with you do you expect to have border wall funding in the next three
weeks before the next deadline I sure hope it's gonna be part of a final
agreement and you know while President Trump said we're going to give you
another three weeks kind of call in the Democrats Bluff who were saying we won't
negotiate on while while the while the government's closed
okay now the government's reopened we have to have a real specific
conversation about how much money they will support president said and it's not
the president it's our experts who protect the border
who say it's gonna cost 5.7 billion for all the technology including wall what
are the Democrats willing to support they're gonna have to put a real number
to paper now in these next three weeks Maria so what do you think they will
support I know that you've actually had support from your colleagues on the
other side some college on the other side but is the Democratic Party facing
its own division where part of it is to part of the party is just resist resist
resist whatever the president comes up with yeah I think we were starting to
see fissures and in fact you saw even the House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer
saying physical barriers should be part of the solution you had committee
chairmen on the Democrat side saying give the president the money for the
wall and so I think this growing drumbeat got Pelosi nervous but at the
same time she's gonna now have to confront it because in every negotiation
I've been in when we've had meetings in the White House with the president when
pressed on what what about a money will she support she always said I won't talk
about numbers while the government's shut down okay now the government's back
open it's time to get serious about these negotiations hopefully there is a
State of the Union that happens in the next two weeks which I think there will
be and the president can make even a stronger case to the rest of the country
because it's that growing support across the country that ultimately will push
more Democrats to our side no wait a minute what do you mean that you think
there will be a State of the Union the American people want a State of the
Union the State of the Union was supposed to be this Tuesday it feels
like Nancy Pelosi has bested the president obviously she now forced him
to not have the State of the Union this week I'm being told it's going to be
February 5th is the State of the Union happening on February 5 well the the
Nancy Pelosi was holding the state in the Union hostage and ultimately the
speaker has to invite the president the Constitution requires the president to
give a State of the Union doesn't mean it has to be in Congress but it ought to
be in Congress and in Moorea I'm hearing similar things that February 5th is
likely the date but all that's something that's up to the
speaker the house if it's going to be in the House chamber which it should be I
thought it was disgraceful that she removed the State of the Union from the
invitation that she had already issued to the president to say that she was
going to uninvite him it had never happened before in the history of our
country I think Nancy Pelosi is afraid of the country hearing this message that
the president has about why we need to secure the border
Kandra stay with us we're gonna slip in a short break I've got more to talk with
you about this situation it certainly feels like politics House Minority Whip
Steve Scalise thank you god bless you and God bless america
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