Pelosi UNDER FIRE! Trump To Put Her IN JAIL For What She Just DID
it's day five of the partial government shutdown over border wolf funding and
both sides are refusing to budge President Trump not backing down here's
what the president said just hours ago in Iraq we need safety for our country
even from this standpoint we have terrorists coming in through the
southern border do we have some drones can we have technology technology is
bells and whistles yeah they have a wall you have that
protection so when you say how long is it going to take when are they going to
say that we need border security what are the Democrats going to say don't
forget the Democrats all agree that you need a wall until I wanted it House
Minority Leader and soon-to-be Speaker Nancy Pelosi is pushing back against the
president claiming quote he's using scare tactics that are not
evidence-based and it's wrong former acting ice director Thomas Holman is
responding to Pelosi by saying she's the one who has it all wrong she's one of
her sent wrong so let me educate Miss Pelosi as far as crime come across the
border ice arrested 138 thousand criminals last year these are people
entered country illegally and committed a crime against the citizens country
what crime over 2,000 homicides over 11,000 weapons violation over 11,000
almost 12,000 sexual assault crimes sexual crimes so crime does come across
that board they just miraculous appear United States to enter the country
legally you know my take on this is this is a huge opportunity to do
comprehensive immigration reform both sides are dug in and positions I think
don't make a lot of sense for the country and indeed even their political
positions wouldn't it make sense to do a wall enhance border security offense as
the president talked about in exchange for a path to citizenship for the
dreamers and some right for those of 10 or 11 million who are here illegally to
stay doesn't that make sense Dana well I think so but I do an inter Furtick ad
who was there for that interview this morning and it was from Arizona I mean
we've talked about comprehensive immigration reform for years over three
different presidents that's what makes it wrong
here's the problem with the comprehensive immigration reform is it's
too big of a project to do when you have a serious crisis at the border at this
point in time border security is different than amnesty for millions of
people who are either here illegally or who brought their children over when
they were children without having gone through the proper process for
citizenship and so when the president talks about wanting a wall or a barrier
he's correct when he says that where we built these things in Yuma Arizona for
example in places in El Paso in San Diego the traffic there has stopped and
if you look at the criminal element that is bringing these children and these
people up through Mexico and using them as human shields to get into the country
you have to take a look at the real issue of the law being changed there and
I've always said that open borders are inhumane borders you had the report
today at the second child dying while in Border Patrol custody that is not a
result of border patrol that is a result of sick kids showing up at the border in
the United States giving them care that they have not seen for 2,000 miles along
their journey is okay it complicates things
enormous ly when you throw in comprehensive immigration reform when
the president's an emergency right now look I agree with Katie but I think
you're not the mess but I try well you're not where your party is right now
I know you're variable but as a relates to your party it's become an open
borders party and they have gone from one in the band ice to and let me say
this the president tried to move on this last week
and he got a major blowback and I said it last week the president if he wants
to lose his base this was the moment that he was gonna lose his base because
he was caving and so now the president is going to the opposite direction and
saying look I can't budge on this I tried to go with my people with this I
tried to get some type of reasonable approach they're not having
and so the Democrats you got to give me some wiggle room right here what you
guys want to put on the table is let's just talk about daca well that doesn't
solve the problem that's on the border and we went through this with Ronald
Reagan before where we gave you amnesty and said hey you're gonna get border
secured in my car and it never came and so the American people just aren't gonna
to go for Tom in my off-base well where you were off base was adding those 10 or
11 million that's you know if he wants to throw daca into some deal I think
people would go for it but they're not gonna go with the broad and the deal in
2013 included the 10 or 11 million I got 68 votes in the Senate is more
complicated than just giving citizenship to people who are brought here as
children from Mexico or Central America because then the question is well if
their parents are still in the country illegally do they give and get to stay
it's a complicated issue of family units and whether they get to stay it's not
just a simple piece of legislation there are serious questions surrounding how
that gets done but when it comes to the president what they have offered in
coming chief of staff Mick Mulvaney was on Fox News Sunday over the weekend and
he actually said that they've come down from there 5.7 billion dollars they did
not say what the number was but Democrats they're hoping we'll come to
some center when it comes to the funding and we're talking about three billion
dollars here and I think no political position they don't like the optics of
the wall that's what it is
but the president going to just get a physical wall on all aspects of the
border they've called it the border wall system he's talked about adding a
technology to it but the symbolic measure of the president have an
accomplishment when it comes to the wall is what Democrats are against right I'm
saying that's exactly right there has to be a compromise around a
fence enhance border security and some path to citizenship for the doctor
residents notwithstanding the issue that's a separate issue I don't
understand why Democrats keep lumping it together because there's border security
and then that's taking care of the people that are already here but you
can't talk about fixing a problem I'm sorry fixing a problem with the kids
that are you have nothing with the border I think that Democrats
even if I think if Barack Obama would have decided to build a wall to stop an
influx of illegal immigration the Democrats would have gone for great
dancing gross yes ah Christi between what Barack Obama do I should hammer
that a little bit more I mean because the Democrats did vote for border
security fencing things that look like a wall but it's it's not just the it's
some symbolism of the wall so a lot of this is a political symbol of the fight
the other thing is a shutdown right so far has been a little bit symbolic now
if you're one of the nine hundred thousand years being furloughed that's
important that is a big deal to you and they hope I hope they can take comfort
in the fact that the government has done back pay ever for them but the first
real day of the shutdown is actually today because the president gave
Christmas Eve as a holiday as well so there's this is they actually the first
real day we'll see what sort of pain comes but I think they end up with like
three point three twenty quickly isn't this ridiculous the whole thing yeah it
shut down the fight all of this yes is the worst I think if he's I don't think
it's bad for the president to throw a temper tantrum and say give me my five
billion or you're not going to get your government back I think to me it's it's
that is a to me it's a bad mistake politically and substantively you win
day six of the shutdown with no end in sight so which side is winning the
optics battle I talked to two people who know joining us now Doug Shona Fox News
contributor and former adviser to President Bill Clinton and Rachel Duffy
also a Fox News contributor welcome to you both thank you thank you so Rachel
ladies first it seems like both sides are suffering here so forth
both sides are suffering but what's interesting to me is that what's being
lost in all of this in the deal that could possibly be made are the daca
recipients a group that the Democrats have claimed to be supporting and
fighting for for so long in fact if you remember Doug last year around this time
representative Gutierrez said I'll build that wall if you help me you know do the
same thing there well why aren't the Democrats doing that it's very
interesting that it's not just the Democrats but even the Hispanic
activist groups that claim to represent this mess aren't putting pressure on the
Democrats to make it I'll tell you why the Democrats believe and I think
there's some poll evidence to support that they have leverage now and they
believe that they can win the fight both to the Democrats it is a back off
because he had been talking a wall built by Mexico now it's a wall built by us or
a fence or slats or whatever it's gonna be but how can they outfit Democrats
could who supported a barrier or some kind in the past now say they don't
support it at all well that was then this is now
and frankly with the Democratic control of the house I think there is not gonna
be a wall there is no real support in the party for a wall there is support
never was for daca and a pathway to citizenship a yeah we're for you know
border security were for a while sure they never really meant it they never
really intended for 2013 68 votes the party is the party of Alexandria Ocasio
Cortes outlier in the party are in the party and the party belongs to the
progressive wing and Nancy Pelosi is plain to that when she cares more about
getting that speakership than she cares about no no impeachment no elimination
of ice Nancy Pelosi I think has been responsible well let's talk about this
new democratic house it's currently and the Wall Street Journal today said that
this shutdown could ruin the nation's introduction to the Democratic House
it's more obstructionism hyper partisanship and political games and
less progress for America well I I think that's what The Wall Street Journal says
but with President Trump at about a forty to forty two percent approval
having lost forty seats largely in states he won in 2016 that he needs in
2020 the Democrats have calculated that this is a fight they can and will win I
think you're honest I think there there's miscalculation they also thought
they were gonna fight and win on Brett Kavanaugh I think the American people
are watching this first of all they're not as afraid of a shutdown as they used
to be because they see the the government
continues you know to operate it's not as big of a threat as it used to I used
to think it was so now they're gonna look at this and go who really cares
about America's security who really cares about the daca recipients and I
think this is a miscalculation if I can get a word and I do believe we both
would agree and I think it would be good for our colleagues in Washington to hear
that if we did a deal if we resurrected the compromised daca for a wall I'd be
for it I think you'd be for it I think the American people would be so as the
clock ticks and we've talked about this as the clock ticks the pressure builds
and of course there's pressure on the president but there's pressure on
Congress to absolutely and don't have hundreds of thousands of federal
employees who won't be collecting paychecks and their voters and their
family vote and this is something that's going to hurt American people over time
you're absolutely right and again and the answer for the president by the way
is to do an oval office address the president needs to make the case of the
American people and I don't think doing it on Twitter is enough he actually
needs to use the office of the presidency to make this very one and say
what and explain why this is so important he's been doing that since the
camp no no but he needs he needs to really position where they're at what I
mean there needs to be an older security without a wall oh come on not serious or
not it's not gonna happen we will do you have fences around your house I sure do
okay fences work we agree but the fence is not a wall and with Nancy Pelosi as
Speaker I can tell you there's not going to be a wall out well and I think
there'll be a political price to pay for that feeling with the American people I
think we will my husband and I were in Walmart and and Sam's Club you know over
the holiday and he was stopped it and he's a member of Congress as you know he
was stopped every few feet by people saying keep fighting for the wall there
was mostly Republicans no I said they don't want a wall they do shop it's a
bill keeps it alive okay I've got my card in my pocket
thank you god bless you and God bless america
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