any moment for AT&T it is about time or should I say Time Warner will these
companies be able to merge they've tried for the better part of two years
very shortly we'll know why every single entertainment conglomerate on the planet
seems to have something at stake in this we're gonna bring it to you live in the
meantime there is this it seems to me that this is not the art of the deal but
it seems to be the beginning of the art of concessions we ought to have the same
caution dealing with a country that we've never had much dealing with but be
very hopeful if she's going to denuclearize we have to be sure that all
the I's are dotted and the t's across if North Korea does not prove willing to
follow through we and our allies must be prepared to restore the policy of
noctilum preference it's imperative that we actually get action here not just
photo ops yep Kim shakes Trump's hand
and receives lavish praise from personal Crump and tries to play President Trump
look what happened to Canada all right well after the sit-down the
fallout welcome everybody really glad to have you I'm Neil Cavuto so what what
now what happens now we've got former Obama Defense Secretary Leon Panetta who
says we'll talk is one thing delivering quite another national security adviser
under george w bush Stephen Adly on what would make this Agreement even stronger
also Republican Senator Rand Paul who sees danger not from Kim Jong moon get
this maybe a fellow Republican senator he's here to explain first to John
Roberts in Singapore on how this face-to-face is playing out across the
globe John
Yael good morning from Singapore where it's 4 o'clock on Wednesday in New York
in the United States you're still into Tuesday and Tuesday here in Singapore
the world was marveling captivated by these images of the very first sitting
American president sitting down with a North Korean leader and the two of them
appearing to get along quite well in the one-on-one meeting that they had and
then later in the extended bilateral meeting over lunch and then signing as
you see here a joint communique that came out of the summit but since then
the critics have really gathered voice and are saying that President Trump gave
away too much without getting anything from Kim jong-un President Trump saying
in this communique that he's about to sign there that he is giving the North
North Korea security guarantees in exchange for Kim Jong Un's commitment
for complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula but the critics are now
saying that it's an empty promise from North Korea there's no verification at
this point president Trump saying all of that will come later that he gave up
nothing and that Kim jong-un was willing to go further than either he or his
father have with previous presidents why listen here
we have never gone this far I don't think they've ever had the confidence
frankly in a president that they have right now for getting things done and
having the ability to get things done I gave up nothing I'm here I haven't
slept in 25 hours but I thought it was appropriate to do because we've been
negotiating for literally round-the-clock with them but we haven't
given up anything other than you're right I agreed to meet he agreed to meet
so the president gave up his time to meet with Kim jong-un the president also
saying that he was going to cancel the yearly joint us-south Korea military
exercises the president called them calling them provocative also overly
expensive a lot of his critics are now saying that the president shouldn't have
given that up with the president also saying in that press conference you saw
there Neal that if the negotiations don't go the way that he helps them to
he will restart those military exercises and where we go from here is a number of
meetings that are planned with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and the North
Koreans as well as Ambassador John Bolton
but the Republican senator out of Louisiana John Kennedy suggesting that
the administration has to proceed very cautiously in talks with Kim jong-un
listen here I think it's important to remember
through out this process that Kim Jong is a butcher he's a butcher of his own
family he's a butcher of his own people and working with him is like trying to
hand feed a shark you can do it but you have to do it very very carefully
working with Kim jong-un is like hand-feeding a shark you can do it you
just have to do it very carefully the president saying he believes that Kim
Jong goat is sincere about wanting to give up nuclear weapons in exchange for
security and economic guarantees but the president also adding in that press
conference to spread that press conference this morning Neil that he
could be back here in six months and say well we got it wrong I think the world
is hoping he's not going to be saying that six months from now yeah I would
hope not all right done Roberts thank you very much my friend now by the way
there is this the worst thing you can do to President Trump if you're a foreign
leader is try to plan so if there's a cheating North Korea in the future if
there's a you know promise and not deliver North Korea then we're probably
going to have a war probably gonna have a work that was South Carolina
Republican Senator Lindsey Graham this morning not long after saying that he
added this I'm a pretty hawkish guy but I want peace I don't want war I'm
willing to give him security guarantees and economic opportunity that I didn't
think I would have given a year ago now a lot of people think he is actually
responding to my next guest who has criticized his hawkish stance the
Kentucky Republican Senator Rand Paul by the way we did contact senator Graham
something we do quite a bit his office declined but first to Senator Rand Paul
right now a senator he's obviously dialed some of these
remarks back i think it the genesis was your criticism of them where do you
stand on on his kind of bellicose view of things you know i think in the midst
of a historic opening president Trump actually having face-to-face
conversations with the leader of North Korea Lindsey Graham trying to declare
war in the middle of that is I don't know someone living in an alternative
universe but it's not real helpful in the middle of the opening to actually
talk about oh yeah if we don't like this we're gonna you know bomb them or
declare war on them no so I think we need to you know have a better
understanding of the way the world works and see if we can actually achieve
something here but I think it's historic that President Trump has had this
meeting nobody else would have done it Obama didn't do it Obama refused to meet
with them Bush II wouldn't do it they would have lawyer this thing to death
and come up with a million reasons not to do the meeting but in order to have a
breakthrough you have to have a meeting so I think this is a very beginning but
I'm very hopeful you know I think we're in this senator even though he didn't
provide this statement directly to US Senator Lindsey Graham did provided his
CNN and referred it to well that's what he said when it comes to fighting
radical Islam and bad actors Senator Paul is constantly AWOL there is no
threat to America that Senator Paul will not retreat from yeah you know I think
he has a naive worldview and we've had this discussion going on for a while
also he's very careless about war but also very careless about the Bill of
Rights I've just come from the Senate floor where he's objecting having the
Fifth Amendment and the sixth amendment apply to people who are accused of
crimes in the United States you know I find it hard to believe that in this day
and age there's someone a senator in public on the Senate floor saying oh no
if you're accused of a crime the United States and Lindsey Graham calls you an
enemy combatant he can send you to Guantanamo Bay or anywhere else
indefinitely no lawyer no trial if Lindsey Graham thinks you're an enemy
combatant he thinks the world were at war and that they're somehow we're gonna
be under martial law under Lindsey Graham that scares me to death and scare
everyone who believes in the Bill of Rights to death we're having that flight
on the Senate floor as we speak because he's blocking my amendment which would
say that no one accused of a crime in our country should ever be spirited away
to another country and knock at a trial you know I'm not all belabor this issue
one more time you'll indulge me because I wanted to have the lives of Grandma
but he constantly refuses coming on this show that's fine but the one thing that
I did want to get from you is your take on his two extreme views of what can
happen here either there's peace or there's war
there is no middle ground what do you make it up well I think that's a typical
of the neoconservatives they see black and white they think you're either
Chamberlain or you're you know Churchill there's no
in-between and there's no nuance to diplomacy when in reality there's a
great deal of nuance and so we have to figure out a way forward to get to
denuclearization but you know for example John Bolton another Lindsey
Graham neocon for him to say oh we're gonna show them the Libyan solution
which was I guess you give up your nuclear weapons then we kill you is
probably not good for diplomacy either so we have to diplomat should think
about what they say before they say them and we need to be talking about how we
can denuclearize North Korea and the whole entire Korean Peninsula and that
involves give-and-take and this is what the the new
Conn's would never often any offer any carrot because they're all about stick
and they want everybody to just kneel down and behave but one of those kneel
con senator is at the table john bolton was at the table I'm sure the President
had that by design of course Mike Pompeo was there as well and others were there
but why do you think he did that because of course the North Koreans were
apoplectic over his Libya comments as you alluded to and yet there he was what
did you make of them my hope is that he was at the children's table and that he
wasn't influencing the discussion among adults I think he was at the main table
but let's step back from this and you talked about what the North Koreans
might over down the road as far as more tests and all the rest and what we are
offering to do to stop the the joint exercises for the time being we could
start those back up if we're not getting the signs of progress out of the North
Koreans but a lot of people have looked at this and said well we must have that
guarantee that we must have verifiable proof that the North Koreans are
denuclearizing are starting to dismantle things and that does not appear I stress
appear to be in this Agreement right it's not I mean so that will come over
time they have been duplicitous in the past so should we have volumes here at
Senator I'm sorry sir but I just want to be clear should we have volunteered to
go ahead and stop these exercises yeah because that can easily be restarted at
any point in time but it shows goodwill it's nothing permanent it's not like
giving them money and I'm not forgiving the North Koreans any money I would
offer them the allure of trade with Japan and South Korea and US and
expanded trade with China and the allure of what trade and commerce brings
basically to a country he has to know he's travelled the world his people may
not have never seen the great opulence that there is in South Korea but he and
his leaders know that there is and they know that there's starvation in their
country we offer them the allure of becoming part of the world of nations
but their hat will have to be verifiable test and I think that the relinquishment
of sanctions even possibly bringing troops home are all things that should
be done out there and if any of them are to
happen we have to have verifiable nuclear denuclearization and it would
probably be a ratcheting down of things over a period of time as he shows
compliance now I know you have been a long credit even during your
presidential campaign about all the troop commitments they have all over the
world I believe at the time you had comment on South Korea the president is
open to seeing that troop number reduced maybe as part of the long-term deal with
the North Koreans someone in the south and South Korea fear that by the time
we're reducing the the North Koreans are rearming and I've proposed an input in
between solution about six months ago I came forward with a possibility of
making the forces along the DMZ the deconfliction zone between the two
Koreas making that an international force and actually making Chinese troops
part of that course because one China does not want us in North Korea North
Korea doesn't want us in North Korea and I think they would see the Chinese as
somewhat of a deterrent to us actually if it were an international force with
the Chinese in it it'd be very unlikely that we would come trotting up into
North Korea for a regime change so I still think it's an idea that hasn't
been fully discussed but actually might be a way of trying to get to something
that's not no troops but is actually a more fully international set of troops
with the understanding that as the Koreas get along over a period of time
and is a verifiable denuclearization that you actually could go to a time
when there are not troops not foreign troops in Korea are you feeling better
today than you were yesterday there a lot of people who criticize the
president for meeting with this rogue dictator as if we could pick and choose
the leaders of countries you know and you've gotten into that with me before
but how do you deal today versus yesterday I think it's a good step for
the world and I think that people need to understand diplomacy is easy with
people like England I mean we have such a long relationship we have very similar
system it's much harder where diplomacy is really needed is when we have a great
deal of disagreements and we don't approve of a great deal of what they do
as far as human rights doesn't mean that we should condone any of that but we
still should have discussions and deconfliction so we don't have war
and I think over time freedom is just and capitalism or such an amazing thing
that without forces without anything if you allow the North Koreans to see trade
if you allow their consumers to have the stuff that is made all around the world
stuff and economic prosperity makes people hunger for freedom more and you
won't need an army if they're able see that it's not at a ramp oh thank you
very good all right we could be just minutes away from finding out whether
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