ask an asthma specialist about facin rock all right not just one maybe not
just two what about multiple informants that have Bennett rated the Trump
campaign in the fall of 2016 if it sounds incredible just hear the
reasoning behind this former Trump campaign aide of course queried by
government authorities Michael Caputo back with us Michael good to have you
thanks for inviting me again yell so you're convinced there were more than
just at least one individual absolutely mostly because I was approached as well
but this time I I mean that what's remarkable here to my approach is that
happen in the first week of May in 2016 very far off the timeline that the
Muller investigation and others are trying to hold to as to when the
investigation into the Trump campaign actually began
so when you say May of 2016 what happened the discovery of someone
penetrating the campaign or what actually I was approached by an
intermediary but who had been talking to a government official of former
government official who told him that they had Hillary Clinton related emails
at the at that government organization and that they wanted to get them to the
Trump campaign this was May 6 that he heard that and 2016 I was told by the
intermediary on May 9th that they wanted to get them to me this conversation
continued back-and-forth for several days I'd I was in Trump Tower at the
time whenever I got a call from the intermediary I would walk outside of the
office I spent a lot of time in the hallway outside of the fifth floor
office talking to this intermediary then I decided that I didn't want that Trump
Tower yes sir all right so yeah you're a top campaign aide at the time at this
time in the spring of 2016 this intermediary what what is an
intermediary mean it's a friend of mine who is willing to go on the record at
the right time I know we're trying as you know here on your show to be
cautious about names of people and organizations but he wants to be on the
record he's willing to talk to fox and he and I were
both kind of amazed that we were getting this kind of a contact from a government
organization coming from who was talking to the intermediary or what type of from
what government agency what could you say I can't say the names of government
agency right but it was a former contractor for that agency who said that
actual staff members of the agency had Hillary Clinton's related emails we
believe that to mean at the time you remember the earlier May Hillary Clinton
had revealed that she had deleted 30,000 emails and we had we believed it meant
that they had those 30,000 emails by the time the 16th of May came around I came
to the conclusion that I did not want to take possession of these emails I
thought they might be classified documents and I urged through the
intermediary that the people at the government organization do it through a
proper whistleblower process I never revealed this conversation to anyone at
the Trump campaign I was uncomfortable talking about it and I broke off contact
with that government organization representative but you knew back then
that someone from the outside wanted to connect with someone on the inside of
the Trump campaign beginning with you that's right and you know I left the
campaign on June 20th that same person the former contractor for the government
organization reached back out to the intermediary again at the end of July
trying to get him interested again in those emails but he again refused to
work with him on it what really disturbed me at the time
Neal is it you know I you know I didn't want to be involved in bringing in this
kind of information I thought it made me look kind of kooky on the first week
when I came into the campaign to tell him I had access to Hillary Clinton's
deleted emails and then it became very frightening for me I thought that it was
you know it could be a crime for me to take them into my own custody what later
on I was I was I gave this information to the House Intelligence Committee I
gave this information to the Senate Intelligence Committee two weeks ago and
I gave this information to the mauler team
and they never reached out to the intermediary to check on it wait a
minute so just to be clear you raised this issue with Muller's team when they
were questioning you and they did nothing
they weren't even interested they didn't even seem to be taking notes
I offered them the time don't you think of that I mean that you're talking about
the possibility of someone from the outside trying to penetrate the Trump
presidential campaign on they weren't remotely interested they did they follow
up on it we even know no they didn't and they didn't call the intermediary who's
willing to go on the record about it I have the telephone number of the former
government representative who was trying to give this to us I don't think they
called him as well he's kind of gone silent we can tell you Mike Lowell and
they weren't interested at all in that well I was really kind of palms up about
this from the very beginning because at first I didn't even think about it
because when I was asked by the House Intelligence Committee in July of last
year whether I had been anyone offered me emails they asked me if any Russian
offered me emails and it didn't come to mind that someone from the US government
apparently was trying to offer me emails I came back to the hypsi to the house
permanent Select Committee on Intelligence after recalling this at a
later date and gave them that timeline it didn't seem to answers them either
there's so much you can surmise from that I won't offer any conjecture here
but I knowing this is out there now knowing that there was at least one
person who was trying to penetrate the Trump campaign and maybe more did it
dawn on you the dimensions of that at the time to say nothing of later on when
you were talking to Muller and his folks well I'll tell you at the time it didn't
you know I thought it was odd I thought it was onion I thought it was perilous
for me to get my hands on it and and and you know I frankly didn't think about it
much after that but then then the emails were released in October for WikiLeaks
and I remembered that the government person who was contacting me through the
intermediary talked about the Swedish Waber on dealing with array
and that was given to the Swedish companies right about the time they gave
26 million dollars to the Clinton Foundation that came out and the
WikiLeaks emails in late October and it blew my mind because I remembered then I
was not on the campaign by then I remembered that that had been brought up
in the first week of May and to me it's if it struck me is why are we talking
about WikiLeaks emails that somebody from the government was trying to give
me in May that's turtling Michael thank you very
very much former Trump campaign insider Michael
Caputo on a development that's raising a lot of questions here as to who would be
interested in doing this why were several interested in doing this and
when all was said and done where the Muller folks really weren't that curious
about this so much we don't know let's say this much we do know in the next
segment the guy who just will not quit Don Blankenship might have lost out
becoming the Republican nominee to take on a Democratic senator but he could be
spoiling the race of the Republican who did win he's here he's next
all right we're told the state says he can't do it but he is West Virginia
businessman Don Blankenship is launching a third-party candidacy for the West
Virginia Senate seat despite coming in third in that Republican primary he
joins us right now to explain why mr. Blankenship they're good to have you why
are you doing this well because I think I'll make a better senator and either
the other two candidates from now think I can win all right so when you hear the
kind of did win the state Attorney General Patrick Morris they say that you
could cost Republicans this potential Senate seat pick up you say what well I
say number one that when I was running in the primary they said I was running
slowly for to be vengeful against senator Manchin and now they're saying
that I'm running call senator Manchin to win neither of which are true I'm
running to win all right but you must know that you have better odds of taking
votes away from the Republican candidate than the Democratic incumbent right I'm
not a hundred percent sure of that because the Democrats are very fed up
with senator Manchin and there were a lot of Democrats that are in southern
West Virginia in the mining fields where I'm very well known and very well
respected so having placed third do you think in that race that you could really
have much of an impact in this one even if you were allowed to run as a third
party candidate well I'm pretty comfortable that I'm going to be allowed
to run I think the law was very clear on that and 100 percent chance if it's
decided based on the law and that's a sore loser feature and that you would be
deemed a sore loser you say that's wrong
my attorneys tell me that's wrong so I guess we'll find out but based on the
law I'm confident that we will be on the ballot and if we are I think we've got
an excellent chance of winning both against Morsi and Manchin because of
their flawed past has mr. Morsi the Attorney General reached out to you or
to you to he after after the primary no I've not talked to him I last time I
talked to him was I think after the but uh on fox but I'm not a hundred
percent sure I may have spoken to him one more time after that have you spoken
to Senator Manchin no I haven't spoken to Senator Manchin probably in seven or
eight years you know the senator Manchin was if you recall came out said I had
blood on my hands after the explosion and of course it's of great interest to
me to hear all this talk about the Department of Justice and being so
corrupt and all these issues that it had and it was the Department of Justice
that indicted me on three felonies but couldn't convict me on any and it's very
disappointing that the news media and this network as well continues to tell
people I'm a felon which I've never been convicted of a felony probably less
likely to be a felon than anyone given that I was investigated for four and a
half years and they couldn't find anything so what are you if you've
served time in jail misdemeanor the only misdemeanor to serve time at a felon
prison in California so I think that should tell us something as well when
they're sending misdemeanors to prison so they can't continue to communicate
for a year is is pretty telling you know there are those who would disagree with
that what trails are saying that it's a little bit bigger than a misdemeanor
when 29 people are killed in a mining accident in 2010 for which you your
company more to the point was held accountable for violating safety
standards on the rest you you don't agree with that and obviously you felt
that way afterwards but that would be a little more than a misdemeanor right
well if you if you stretch it that far you know the government blew up the gold
mine so it's natural that the government wanted to cover up what really happened
and wasn't that the thrust of it that you violated safety standards and that's
what prompted all of this and you to go to jail no I've never violated a safety
standard myself you know coal companies have lots of violations but this man was
pretty much average they had less than one violation per inspector a day over
two and a half years but both the media and the government made it out that it
was some extraordinary number it was actually 20 percent less than a man next
door and 20% more after I left the company so
it's an easy story for the media and the government to tell but it's untrue mr.
Blankenship I'm just wondering now if you pursue this obviously you've raised
concerns among Senate Republicans who think this is a potential pickup for
them including Mitch McConnell who had hoped that you would lose and he had his
wish I think
the parties and their individual Authority than they are in the country
and somebody needs to stand up against it and since I've been so abused by the
government since the extent of being falsely charged falsely tried and then
sent to prison as a misdemeanor I figure I'm the guy that is very motivated to
stand up against this nonsense but a couple of weeks ago you were the
establishment right you I'm sorry a couple of weeks ago you were the
establish you were running for the Republican nomination now it just seems
that after failing to get it third you're bitter and you're angry and now
you're non-establishment and you're running apart from those parties right
again you can say that that's not true I ran on the platform of not voting for
Mitch McConnell and on the platform of balancing the budget and on the platform
of stopping the efforts to police the world which West Virginians believe in
accordingly and say whatever the merits of your argument sir you were not their
cup of tea they opted for someone else you were third well they didn't run on
the facts they ran on what Fox News and others were saying that I was a felon
including you know president sandwich to be clear are you saying that the West
Virginia residents and voters were duped the ones who opted for two other
candidates over you were duped yes I'm saying that they were misled by
everything from the president's son to six or seven Republican senators to the
Department of Justice and there and a whole host of other people because
everyone joined into this lie about my having something to do with the
explosion I was never even tried for anything to do with the explosion and
that the President Obama claimed that he knew what happened at the coal mine
before anybody ever went underground I'm sorry sir what would you do if the state
said no you can't do this I mean we have this law in effect your lawyers seem to
be telling you no you can get on the ballot anyway that's a write-in is that
the last you know the last strategy you could use
as a write-in candidate well I could but I'm not going to have to the law I mean
they actually wrote another law just a couple months ago that takes effect in
June trying to clarify their sore-loser law so they obviously weren't
comfortable with the sore-loser law that we saw bitter loser no I'm a little bit
bitter at the fact that people continue to report that I'm a felon and continue
to claim something that's obviously false I think that you know everybody
from Laura legal to Judge Napolitano need to stop that because they know I'm
not a felon and that means that they don't believe in the justice system I
understand we can go round around on this bottom line is you are hell-bent on
getting on that ballot one way or the other even though the state says you
can't well the state hasn't said we can't you know the states hasn't decided
that yet when we finally file the papers to be can't but that could change thank
you very much well watch thank you I appreciate it all
right so we'll have much more after this on the implications of all of this
you
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