See waters Gillian Turner and Greg Gutfeld it's five o'clock in New York City, and this is the five
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New push on immigration President Trump is reaching across the aisle to strike a deal with Democrats on so-called dreamers in
Return the president wants funding to pay for the border wall some top priorities in his 70 point plan include
building the wall hiring 10,000 additional ice agents and 600 prosecutors
Mandatory e-verify system which confirms an immigrants work eligibility and a new points-based system for green cards
But don't expect a deal from the Democrats Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader, Nancy Pelosi
Already saying no. Thanks quote
We told the president at our meeting that we were open to reasonable border security measures, alongside the DREAM Act
But this list goes so far beyond what is reasonable this proposal fails to represent any attempt to compromise
Meanwhile the president's counselor has this message for critics on the left
They should actually be calling their friends Chuck and Nancy they say you know are you going to give up this deal because you don't
Want to why don't you want a?
Border wall constructor. Why don't you want more immigration judges and agents, and why isn't a reasonable policy to limit chain migration?
And also to stop these visa overstays and to make sure people
That are flouting the law once they're here breaking the law also here go back
Okay, so I'm Jesse. What do you make of this plan the Democrats obviously pushing back?
But Trump aka the wall pushing forward. That's right
Well crying Chuck needs to put down the New York Times and start reading the art of the deal because this is
Classic Trump you start with a big ask, and then you dial it back and end up getting
75% of what you want
I'm sick of hearing. This is a non-starter
Can we ban that phrase yes according to Democrats anything the Republicans propose is a?
non-starter the Democrats idea of compromise is a hundred percent of what they want I
understand why though because the Republicans in Congress have caved and buckled for the last eight years
So it's two prong strategy here one you insert the wall and at the last minute you
Dial it back, and then you look like you're flexible and a big leader
Or you take the all to the limit and make the Democrats look like rigid radicals
But here he still has a trump card he can extend daca if he doesn't like the terms for an extra six months
So he controls the whole debate the issue though is the wall isn't as popular as protecting dreamers
But I don't think Trump cares about polling and I think his base is gonna stay with them
No matter what he cares about that base exactly
But he also cares about the big beautiful wall mm-hmm big and beautiful
Gray, I'm a dreamer. I dream about the wall, but you know these are their green cards. They're not gift cards
I think somewhere along the line. We look we lost our way
What's wrong with a little bit of processing a little bit of rules?
I don't think it's that big of a deal, but 70 points. It's a lot of points
Did you imagine being a thousand points alone imagine being in that meeting you know point twenty-two
Seven more points
To hear you talk about rules and process in such a respectful way. This is an interesting no
this is an interesting point because the argument that the Democrats have about immigration is exactly the
Opposite of their argument for gun control. They don't want laws that go with immigration
They go what why do we need more laws
Why do we need more laws we need sanctuary because you know if they're good
But that's exactly opposite the gun control law argument, which is we need more laws we need more friction
We need to slow things down, but they can't do it with immigration
I find that very interesting by the way that can work both ways
You could say that somebody that argues against gun control laws. Why do they want laws for immigration?
Governor Jerry Brown doing that with
California and essentially making it a sanctuary state they want to put you know and make their own laws and play by their own rules
But yet they don't like these over here
Hello
Wow I see it so differently because I realize that there was a deal in place a deal between the President and Chuck and Nancy
Right and then the president has in a group of Republican senators. Who say hey, we think you are pushing us out mister
We don't like this. Why don't we look at some?
principles that we can employ with regard to
Immigration and so then having struck a deal with Chuck and Nancy guess what huh calm Chansey Chansey all right?
Chansey he then goes back to them and says here's my principles well
wait a second wait a
second then nobody does business this way nobody does a deal where you say it's all on my terms or no terms or the
Highway, and that's what he did so then when you when the Democrats say excuse us
That's not the deal we discussed
Because they had agreed by the way Jesse to added security on the border as part of their deal
And they had agreed that they want either they want so many of these things so well
Because Krupp has just gone back and undone the deal and I agree with what Jillian said
I've read Trump saying he
Cares about the dreamers he did not want to do anything to hurt the dreamers, but we don't want more dreamers
And that's the point and that's what the wall accomplishes
But Jesse's the dreamers are eight, or a circumscribed group they are now you can't add more
Okay, so hashtag Chauncey whose theme song. I guess is gonna be a boxy on me
So Julian
I like what you're saying you saying you know what the president isn't trying to be mean spirited or not honor those like hardworking
Americans who came here perhaps, you know you know fall directly you know of their own, so is there a way to
Kind of make both sides happy a little bit
Or will the Democrats just be obstructionist because now you see Chauncey saying now we have no bid for this well
I so I was surprised to see what worries me in this proposal
Is there is an element of using the dreamers as a negotiating chip and?
President Trump has taken great care in many speeches many public remarks to talk about the fact that emotionally and psychologically
He connects with the idea that America should be a place to welcome these people so I was disappointed by that
But my own political stuff aside for a second. I I think the proposal that was submitted yesterday is
Really the administration's answer to the criticism that President Trump received in the wake of the failed health care repeal
Which is that? He was not invested personally? He was not involved in the process
He was not in it down in the nitty-gritty figuring this stuff out
Trying to help Congress come up with the specifics to populate this bill. This is something. That's chock-a-block full of specifics
No one can levy that criticism again. You know against him in this instance
I think that was really the priority here was cobbling together a complete plan so jellien
The thing here is though that when I just want to put the point out there the president has been willing to reach across
To the Democrats to try to find some common ground he's doing that even right now with Chuck Schumer as it relates to
Health care and saying hey look. I'm willing to do a deal
I can you guys come and sit at the table nobody is you can't say that he's not
Undercut
The Democrats you have a case to make the American people want us to stay
Why are you guys making us a political football and Nancy Pelosi remember she ran off the stage you?
Humiliated her you you enjoyed that mind very much, okay?
Now
Here comes Donald Trump, and he's in trouble with the Republicans. He says. Oh, wait a second
I got some principles here, and he's changing the deal Jesse. That's not
On a deal sounds like a good deal to me. Oh yeah. We're not making on a deal. That's not you know listen
He always said you wanted massive border funding
deal today
Right if a Democrat did this thing you would be through the roof Jesse Watters wouldn't because it wouldn't happen to me otherwise
When will you compare an exit question okay McLaughlin group
If you compare illegal immigration to the Russian meddling why is one foreign influence okay, and the other one not
But it's a great question should be non-starter
Because it's a great question
Why is it? Why is it illegal immigration can have an impact on your elections and on what you do?
But Russian meddling can't great point. What are you talking about? One is a domestic issue for us?
The Russians in here - oh is that right yes
Or not registering voting without registering so voting illegally in this country
That myth largely no. No I'm talking about picketing talking about demonstration political demonstrations keep up
Coming up more national anthem protests this weekend for the NFL and the vice president takes a stand that's next day with
Swish
Just when you thought we were out the NFL players pull us right back in vice president Mike Pence and his wife attend to the
Colts 49ers game Sunday only to witness the 49er players kneeling for the national anthem once again
so the vice president left the game tweeting I left today's Colts game because POTUS and I will not dignify any event the
Disrespects our soldiers our flag and our national anthem the president jumped in supporting the vice president
I asked VP pence to leave stadium if any players kneeled
Disrespecting our country. I am proud of them and second lady Karen, but now critics are suggesting it was a stunt
Here's Eric Reed of the 49ers
The vice president was scheduled to be at that game for the statue unveiling of Peyton Manning take the statue down
Look what do you think okay?
The idea that you're concluding that it's a stunt does not make you intelligent
He could have he knew this was gonna happen
It's a stunt so what the media uses is every crisis as a stunt if one side can
Pull stunts if the NFL can pull publicity or political stunts. Why can't the Vice President do the same thing?
I think that they just they basically just spiked the football on the NFL they and I think it's hilarious
You responded with a political political stunt and a publicity stunt
Against one that had caused so much to vit divisive Ness. I think it's great, but just admit it
It was a stunt and so what I love stunts. Why are you doing? This? Why are you undercutting me before I can
I think it's that Russian guy I
Mean he has a son who's active duty in the Marine Corps
Maybe he was very upset about the kneeling well from all that we hear
He spoke the Trump right before he tells the people in the press will don't get high to your cars because I'm gonna leave soon
it
Was
Pushing back pushing
Of the quote, so why wouldn't he be there?
He knows
We're in the Jersey the whole thing this was planned ahead of time and by the way he should support the president
You said it was plan that they had they meaning the event for him to attend the game
and he was already gonna be there for a discussion tax cut so he went and okay so the 49ers and what's wrong with the
Team by the way Colin who started all this like hey all play for any team. I'm gonna stand now. It's no problem
No kneeling, that's the other latest thing from him. I think he's pushing back on that his girlfriend
I'd like to hear from Colin
Can we can he do an interview one of these days it would clear a lot of things I'd like to go stock shopping with
Him he he needs to upgrade the Wardrobe now Jared Jones the owner of the Dallas Cowboys
Said that all the players are gonna stand don't stand you're gonna get into some trouble
What do you think about that I think that it's fair because the NFL as we've discussed has for has very clear
guidelines that are distributed to all the players about
What conduct on the field during before and after the game is supposed to look like right that said?
I'm a little I have a there's some distance between you and I on this I think that
Nobody's really pulling a stunt here and their
Owners are afraid that the players are gonna do this and they don't want to come down too hard on them
But let me ask you this do what they're gonna kneel and it's gonna be bad for business and terrible people
Baseball strike that didn't work out so well for a baseball. They're gonna get too cute with
Their in their financial interest all the national and international attention on this on the NFL ratings don't really prove that one
Let me ask you Jamil Hill
Are friend over at ESPN who got into trouble for saying that Trump was a white supremacist waiting again and wants to boycott
Jerry Jones's advertisers from the Cowboys was just suspended right and they're unfair well
I think that when she starts to do things
Repeatedly in according to ESPN. They had spoken with her and not suspended her after the first comment
But made it clear that she represents the company so you know by the standard
I would apply to myself as an employee of Fox
I am NOT free to go out there and say things that would be
Contrary to Fox's best interest you can ask me things like exactly in my personal life
But guess what I do work for Fox and I'm a proud employee of this company
So I think she understood that she broke a rule and I think
I'm interested in knowing how other people especially other black people at ESPN react because the first time when there was some question about
What she had done and whether or not she should pull off there everybody said no
We're not sitting in for Jamil in this case. I think Jamil
intentionally no no's
Intentionally broke a rule and knows that she intentionally broke a rule. You're a 49ers fan right right
Since the
Thing that kills me Jesse
And I know it kills Kimberly this was an amazing team one of the greatest teams in the 90s
And it's like you can't even remember that but but but drives me nuts about this whole thing is that if you endorse
patriotic symbolism the media will mock you you're so old-fashioned and irrelevant
But if you resist patriotic symbolism, they elevate you because you're edgy and you're cool right that's the bottom. I think that's the core
Bottom-line issue here. Is that if you mock something that is considered traditional the American
It's great, but they're hanging you out to dry because the majority of the country disagrees with that position
I mean you know what how about put a couple of wins up on the board there like shaming the
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