president Trump pummeling his Attorney General Jeff Sessions yet again today
this comes after the embattled AG pushed back against Trump's criticism defending
his performance at the DOJ and vowing not to be influenced by political
considerations chief national correspondent ed Henry joins us with the
latest on the heated feud what's going on it
good to see you Jesse you know the war words and I hear Greg they're bullying
me that's interesting it's really intensifying because it's not really new
for the president to punch the Attorney General what's surprising is Jeff
Sessions decided to fire back and may just be counter punching his way out of
a job the feud has been getting ugly for some
time with the president tweeting last year the Attorney General was
beleaguered and then tweeting earlier this month that sessions was
quote/unquote missing in action on democratic scandals like the Clinton
email Pro but the spat appeared to escalate Wednesday the president's
interview with Fox Fox's Ainsley Earhardt where he didn't just take
another swing at sessions for letting James Comey and others off the hook he
questioned his manhood sessions listen to this are very strong in the Justice
Department I put an attorney general that never
took control of the Justice Department Jeff Sessions never took control of the
Justice Department he took the job and then he said I'm going to recuse myself
I said what kind of a man is this now sessions usually ignores those punches
but yesterday decided of try and brush the president back with a statement
claiming he took control of justice on day one and adding quote while I am
Attorney General the actions of the Department of Justice will not be
improperly influenced by political considerations this afternoon
former session spokesman Ian Pryor told me the Attorney General responded this
time because the president's words were more powerful on camera rather than just
tweets and I pressed him on answering the president's complaint about why his
friends are facing indictments and criminal charges while on the Democratic
side the Justice Department appears to be laying off under this Department of
Justice they are not going to talk about ongoing investigations publicly or in
any other way so we don't know what they're investigating what they're
looking at beyond that there needs to be enough evidence for a jury to it for a
grand jury to Deitz somebody now Republican Lindsey
Graham says that session should not be ousted before the midterms when you've
got Brett Cavanaugh's nomination other matters to deal with but Graham said
change may be coming after the midterms and the president a few hours ago
tweeted out reaction the sessions statement say Jeff that's great that all
of a sudden you don't want political considerations go after some of the
Democratic scandals that's the president's message all right thanks
have a great weekend you too all right well it looks like
he's just trying to browbeat the Attorney General into resigning
accessions is getting the message so uh they're like Ross and Rachel on friends
they fight they break up but you know what I really think they belong together
because I think there's some chemistry they fight in public which makes it
uncomfortable for all of us and God help you if you take a side because then
they'll both turn against you that happens whenever a couple fights here's
my problem with this is that I'm not a fan of office politics my concern is
that you know it's a distraction from serious matters we just saw Isis audio
released and in which it's like maybe al-baghdadi might not be dead talking
about current events so we're obsessing over parlor intrigue
and payoffs to porn stars and our enemies are reloading they were 24/7
while we sit and we get distracted and they're waiting for the right time our
media is distracted we're kind of distracted we're complacent and we're
complacent in large part because President Trump and our military made
Isis feel like a distant memory so they're not around anymore so we're we
can have fun with this stuff but I get I'm a little worried because I'm a
neurotic freak here here yes the one who's right kitty I do understand the
president's frustration with his Attorney General and he explained it
pretty specifically here he says deleted Clinton emails Comey lies and leaks
Muller conflicts mccabe Strock page Bruce and Nellie or FISA abuse Kris
Steele and the dossier the Clinton Foundation surveillance collusion you
get you get his frustration because it looks like he's being railroaded by all
these investigations yet on the other hand his political enemies who he
believes have done a lot of wrong things are getting off scot-free well I think
it's frustrating from administration to administration when you see scandal
happen in the Obama administration for example
typically when a new administration comes in the next DOJ kind of closes the
door on what happened and tries to move on now whether that's because they don't
want to look into that because they may have their own problems with their own
is one question but politically this is not a good situation for the president
it's going to be very difficult to confirm someone who's as conservative as
Jeff Sessions on these issues and when it comes to what sessions said when he
fought back against what the president said he focused on other issues outside
of what the president's complaining about I've been working on violent crime
I've been working on terrorism I've been working on your one huge campaign issue
which is illegal immigration so if you don't want someone who's going to be
doing all those things good luck because it's when you're very difficult to find
someone who's willing to go to the mat on those issues at the Justice
Department there was a silver lining though yes there was a silver lining
there's you know there's a good picture of you in between yeah yeah I'm sitting
between the two gentlemen but I will tell you the silver lining that I saw in
this was when Jeff Sessions spokesperson said they're investigating things that
we're not going to know about so I hope they're going after Mackay back I can't
ride off in the sunset they should be going after struck who got fired they
should be going after Lisa Paige what they did was apprehensive was horrible
they should be going after Bruce or with all the fusions in the foundation of
course Clinton Foundation I'm hoping that they are doing their job and and
really we shouldn't know about it if they are as well as far as abuse but as
I said yesterday one I think if sessions gets too involved in doing the
president's bidding or going after some of the president's political enemies
regardless of not whether they did corrupt things it's going to create the
appearance of obstruction of justice because you have this ongoing Muller
investigation so he feels like he's in a bind probably you're a wise man Jim
thank you in keeping with that laundry list that you had before it sounds like
you're you know lock her up lock her up this is a Trump rally
I don't want it locked up I wanted to run again yes fine but I mean this is
first of all all the things that you listed have been investigated all the
people I see Jim Thome and all those people oh
I see and this the the FBI now is not run by a Republican the head of the
Justice Department not a Republican the Deputy Attorney got not a Republican
these are Republicans and you guys still are attacking your own it's hard to
believe that Republicans trumpian or is that how you say a trump you say what
you want okay unless you're a trumpeter
Trump acolytes sure then you can't you're not allowing the club in him what
about the politics of this Greg so if he does cut sessions loose before the
midterms it creates an impossible scenario to reconfirm but let's just say
they keep the Senate so they have the majority I could see him replacing
sessions in December and having them be confirmed or the new person confirmed in
January I don't know I get it I can't who knows who knows I don't know if he
stays or it goes I kind of like session seems like a nice guy met him once at
dinner which is nice sooo nice maybe but you know there's never been a more
transparent administration he castigates his staff publicly which is unusual but
but it's he's the least deceptive president I've ever seen we know about
all this stuff the interesting part about this story
none of this ever would have happened if Trump didn't win and we now we know that
Trump wasn't supposed to win and so he set off all sorts of punishment from all
sides you know and it's like and you have that Chef if Hillary had won would
you have seen the same kind of investigations about her corruption the
dossier story is way way WAY worse than anything Trump's don't I mean come on
Mort worse than a meetings craziness a dossier away from the conspiracies I'll
say that okay let's start if there is someone that President Trump has in mind
to replace Attorney General Sessions it would have to be someone who would agree
to fire Muller right it would have to be someone who is sure agree to attack the
Democrats so it would be totally a political move our law enforcement our
top law enforcement organization the Justice Department knighted States would
be totally politicized like Eric lund in the law enforcement community in this
country to an extent that I think we've never colder undermined the 5149
Republican majority in the Senate Katie I don't think given what susan collins
said today what john cornyn said today that there's any agree with that that
there's any chance that the Senate would confirm a new economy actually I
actually agree maybe right now but you know the man who's in charge of the
Senate Judiciary Committee Chuck Grassley last year was saying we're not
we don't have time in the docket to deal with this right now but he did open the
door to having some time maybe later on in the year that's a big question I do
want to say though when you know I covered by administration scandals and
nobody was ever fired for anything so the idea that Peter shock did get fired
but Andrew McCabe got fired and it may have taken a little longer but there
because of the bureaucracy and the rules around labor laws in the federal
government it there is a process they have to go through I do think it
actually says a lot about being able to get those guys fired and I think that
that Christopher ray should get credit for that thank you and in the commercial
break Pam is going to tell us the conversation the president had across
from her with jeff Sessions might and it better be good
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