President Trump of course speaking at a rally at Elkhart Indiana went for over
an hour author and columnist mark Stein watched
the whole thing and joins us now with reaction would you think mark I think it
was pretty darn good the president has essentially invented a
kind of new form here the way FDR did with his fireside chats on the radio and
it works for him this is how I first saw him on stage basically riffing on the
day's news he's got a little bit more telling prompted since then but but
actually he's gone back to what he was doing in his campaign days just he's
comfortable in the job he's comfortable with himself and he's doing all
Republicans and all conservatives are service and this is something that Marco
and Jeb and John Kasich and all the rest can learn from him is he's not being
boxed in by Democrat media corsets of discourse he's basically found a way to
get out what he wants to get out and it works for him really well and by the way
the stuff about the London embassy was a classic I don't believe that was on the
prompter ad it was a classic rifts concluding I want to make sure I get
these words right he described the US Embassy Grosvenor
Square as quote the best location in the whole portfolio I love the way he talks
about the United States embassies as a portfolio like Trump Tower and from
resort all the rest of it in the State Department doesn't use that officially
but I get the sense watching him speak in talking to the him and the people
work for him that he gets a lot out of these because it helps him gauge the
interest level in certain policies yes I think that's true it was interesting to
me the the biggest applause is always for the wall and if you noticed the last
time you did one of these a couple of weeks ago he started to go on I think it
was about h-1b or h-2b visas I think eager little confuse on the point and
the crowd actually wasn't so enthused about that
and I noticed that those lines have gone have gone missing and you know this is
really what the medium particular don't get about president from they're very
hung up on literalism he's actually playing in a sense he's playing a stage
character so when they get annoyed about things I mean for example he said
tonight Oh Mike Pence he's doing an unbelievable job which kind of reminded
me about what Chuck Schumer got mad at him for saying about Kim jong-un and I
can well imagine that in Singapore Trump's putting his arm around him and
saying hey rocket man you're doing an unbelievable job you look fabulous loose
and wait you're looking like my Freud's terrific they don't understand is like
you know the media are bone-crushing lee literal about this he's like a great
actor or a great singer he's playing the subtext not not just merely the dialogue
on the surface and you'd think these these moronic celebrity critics of his
would figure that out why is alec baldwin's impersonation of trump such a
big nothing it's because Trump is actually playing from better than this
brilliant actor plays him he's playing the subtext and that's by the way that's
what God not to go all actor studio on you Tucker that's what I like it when
that's what Alec Baldwin does when he does his hilarious Tony Bennett
impression he's plains of subtext but but he can't get beyond the politics and
he can't get beyond the surface lingo when he does Trump Trump is Trump is is
a genius like this and that's what the and that's what all the these crowds get
even when what even when the words appear to be saying something else they
they get what he's really saying this is this is something you know if there was
political staff college they'd be teaching these things in 20 or 50 years
I think maybe what are you saying most of all is I care about you I'm
interested in what you have to say and that that people want to hear that more
than anything absolutely and and what's interesting to
me is when you leave these rallies it's not just the people are laughing and
people are mouthing along with the slogans but you also see people with
tears welling up in their eyes because it is so unlike the synthetic consultant
driven poll-tested phony-baloney of conventional presidential campaigning
interesting mark Stein always great to see you thank you thanks a lot tiger
Democrats are upset about speeches like that and about the Trump presidency
itself of course but for more than a year they've consoled themselves by
looking ahead to the midterms the 2018 congressional elections and they thought
to themselves we're gonna win big we're gonna take back power and they may but
recent polls show that Democrats once massive lead is shrinking and now to
almost nothing a new poll over at CNN shows the
Democrats have only a three point advantage on a generic Congressional
ballot is this real was it mean what's going on here tom bevin co-founder of
RealClearPolitics follows the stuff carefully for a living and he joins us
tonight what is this about Tom and is it real oh I definitely think it's real
Tucker you go back and look in mid-december the Democratic lead in the
generic ballot and that's the question if the election were held today would
you vote for the Republican or Democrat Democrats had a 13-point lead as of
today it's down to 6 in our RealClearPolitics average and as you
mentioned the CNN poll went from 16 point lead for Democrats two months ago
down to three we've got another poll showing it down to one point so this is
real and it is just as a point of reference in 2006 when Democrats won 30
seats they finished with a seven point nine percentage lead in the generic
ballot and so they're at six now and they need about twenty four seats so I
think they're in that that range where it's making them very very nervous so
Republicans in Congress have been assuming for months I'd talked to them
that they're gonna lose big and that Nancy Pelosi or whomever is going to be
the speaker now they think they've got a shot but they're concerned about
intensity voter intensity on the left is really really strong is that how
meaningful is that intensity oh it's meaningful particularly in a
midterm election where it's all about turning out the base and Democrats have
had advantage in that but again back to that CNN poll that was another finding
that I think was disturbing for Democrats they showed that Republic
intensity is up now and was matching the level of Democrats and and if that's the
case it's not at all a sure bet that Democrats would take back the house in
November this is all a little confusing and from personal approval numbers are
confusing given that the stormy Daniels story which is the single most important
story ever covered by the American news media who we both agree on that has
dominated the coverage for the past three or four weeks month two months I
don't how long has been that that hasn't had an effect no in fact it's just the
opposite Tucker back in mid December was Trump's low point in the Real Clear
Politics job approval rating his average was 37 he's now at forty four point
three so he's gained or forty three point four he's he's gained six six and
half points over the course of that period and as you mentioned the entire
time it's been in the stormy Daniels onslaught it has not only has it hurt
his numbers his numbers have been ticking upward the entire time and again
that's something that and you see Democrats how you talk to them they're
there now somewhat annoyed by this because you talked to Nancy Pelosi and
others they say look this is distracting from our message they want to try and
get back to to reaching voters and voters have actually tuned that out now
and are paying attention to the other stuff which trump has had a pretty good
few weeks amazing their message we don't have time for you to tell me what that
is but I appreciate it Tom thank you you
got was you just heard the numbers on the upcoming midterm election aren't
interesting the Democrats are still ahead but they're not nearly as popular
as they were six months ago and that is weird the president still disliked by
half the country congressional Republicans in the polling
or even less admired than he is so Democrats ought to be way ahead and as
you just heard they're not so why is that could it be that for all the
problems for the Republican Party and those problems are real Democrats are
perceived as even less appealing looks that way the question is why we have
some theories we can show you a million examples to illustrate this but
here's one from just yesterday they came immediately to mind watch is this MSNBC
panel which is as close to a Democratic Party focus group as you'll ever find
gushes over that porn lawyer the one whose eyes were too close together
he was always on television making threats watch this Michael a Vinod is a
beast okay that's true and he's a beast he's a beast that he keeps popping
Donald Trump in all of his folks in the mouth Jon Meacham says he may be the
savior of the Republic if this really the news of the Iran deal practically in
one big stroke he really is a master of the media cycle I owe Michael avenatti
an apology for the last couple weeks I've been saying I'm not for reading
Michael I've seen you everywhere what do you have to say I was wrong brother you
have a lot to say the Democrats could learn something for you you are messing
with Trump a lot more than they are so here's the political rule of thumb if
the creepy porn lawyer is quote the savior of a republic in your view you're
probably not trying very hard to appeal to middle America and Democrats are not
in fact in the last year and half the Democratic Party has doubled down on
every behavior they got trump elected in the first place they routinely vilified
tens of millions of Americans based on how they look they prefer illegal
immigrants to u.s. citizens at this point doesn't even hide that preference
they're open about it in schools and sports in the military they denounced
the idea of biological differences between men and women
that's something that every culture from ancient Egypt till about 20 minutes ago
understood perfectly well because it's demonstrable they don't recognize it
anymore then two nights ago the New York Times criticized the Secretary of State
Mike Pompeo and his trip to North Korea they ran the headline at a key moment
Trump's top diplomat is again in thousands of miles away like it was a
sin but the purpose of his visit you'll recall was to secure the release of
three American prisoners but the time she's not impressed by that
Pompeyo works for Trump so the whole thing must be bad whatever else he's
done Trump has driven the Democratic Party off the deep end and I only hate
him but the country that elected him and it started to show in the polls Christie
Setzer's president new heights communications she's been in and around
the Democratic Party for a long time and she joins us tonight
so I mean you've heard Tom Bevans say you know they're mad
their message isn't getting out but the truth is their messages Trump is bad and
that's not really a message right that's more an animal reaction whatever their
message is it's actually working if you look at the congressional and state
level elections that have happened since November 2016 there were cuts of flip
40-plus seats at the state legislative level and often in districts where Trump
actually won by twenty or thirty points so we can quibble about what the message
is and but we can't really put them right now about whether or not it's
working because it clearly seems today well I mean of course to some extent I
mean Trump is still like loathed by half the population it's his first midterm so
historically of course they're gonna pick up seats the question is where's
the wave and if you listen what the message really is one of the messages is
for example that there are no differences between the sexes that
biological reality is like fake anything I mean we need to reorganize Society
along those lines that's way more radical anything from has ever said I
would suggest that you point me to the candidate that is saying that in making
that the real message no look Democrats are being reasonable in election there
is would it be possible for a Democrat running for office in a Democratic
primary to say there are two biological sexes male and female and that's it
that's what our biology just say talk about the economy are you joking pushing
all these changes on the rest of us including the bathroom thing all this
you couldn't say it's Republicans who are doing the bathroom thing I again
North Carolina that was a that was a entirely no one even imagined there were
more than two sexes until about twenty minutes ago it was Democrats oh but I'm
just saying that's a big change maybe there are maybe biology isn't real but
that's not a mainstream position and they saw what I'm talking about it does
that help I would say that if you wanted to make the argument to me that
Democrats should or should not be talking about impeachment they should or
should not be spending lot of time on sir--my Daniela's in my club honey we
can have that conversation and I would be happy to but there is no mainstream
Democratic candidate who is talking about as you said you know I'm serious
cause I think it's reordering society's always a big deal mm-hmm
and pretending biologies fake is too so you could have a Democratic candidate
who would say there are two biological sexes that's it he could get away with
that I don't think that they have been is what I'm saying and I think again if
you look back to the ways that Democrats have been performing up to this point
whatever it is that they're doing is working there is far more energy there
is more small dollar donations and that leads into more volunteers and it leads
to a better slate of candidates in the Democratic lot of it is true I think
you're absolutely right there's probably more energy more money all that I just
I'm waiting for the wave we'll see I hope you'll come back election night
thank you sir thank you Robert Muller has bitten off a lot can he chew it is
the question the Russian interference narrative is actually headed to court it
might not like that that's for easy
having moderate you may missed it but especially cop special counsel robert
muller indicted 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies earlier this
year the thought all along was they would never show up for court but now
they're contesting and it looks like this case is going to court and that
might be bad for robert molars investigation how and why no one can
slow his questions more succinctly than shows Jennifer who joins us now in
studio why would it be bad for this to go to trial well because they're not
ready for it they indicted a kid prematurely against people that they
thought would never show up from Russia and then one of the Russian companies
hired lawyers and sent them to court to say we're here and we want to plead not
guilty and we want a lot of discovery on your criminal case against us and mr.
Miller's people objected strenuously they said we're not ready for an
arraignment but they're not here properly and the federal judge said to
them mr. Muller you indicted this case it's your case it's going to trial let's
have let's start this process right now is he indicted people without being
ready to prove they were guilty that is exactly right he abused the grand jury
process as he has from the beginning of this outrageous investigation authorized
by mr. Rosenstein this is Rosen Stein's monster in spades you were a prosecutor
a federal prosecutor it seems borderline immoral to indict
someone unless you can prove he's guilty at the time they did it for one reason
only Muller needed something Russian like dressing on a salad to make his
investigation look good so he indicted 13 people and corporations in another
country that he thought would never show up and bingo one of them shows up and
says prove it mother story imagine if he did that to Americans like
I don't know he already had he's done it to mr. Flynt
that's unbelievable Jojo genom thank you for that you're welcome thank you that's
worse even than I thought it was I appreciate it up next our liberal Sherpa
Kathi aruhya waited all week she joins us next
has had to try out for the cheerleading team but one mother complained after her
daughter didn't make it so school officials order the team to accept
everyone without tryouts setting a brand new precedent that we're sure will
become common nationwide that's why we wanted to talk to Kathy arou
are liberal Sherpa to understand the outlines of this new world view Kathy
thanks a lot for coming on thank you so I mean it goes without saying that
you're in for this of course yes but if we take this principle and expand it you
start asking questions like why should airline pilots have to know how to fly
airplanes is it a discriminatory to prevent people don't know how to fly
from flying planes well I don't think trying out for cheerleading team is the
same as flying an airplane it's a skill based profession
so if you know how to fly an airplane by all means you should fly an airplane but
I don't think cheerleading's the famous flying wing but there was a set of
standards and people couldn't join the team if they couldn't cheer correctly
maybe these people who couldn't join the team then get confident cheerily they
become confident cheerleaders they didn't even know they could be great
cheerleaders and then they go on to become wonderful pilots because they
look back and they were great cheerleaders so it gives them that
self-esteem to move on in life and become better people so maybe now you're
winning me over I think inclusive programs but why don't
we adopt these same inclusive standards at Harvard in Yale and Princeton I mean
why are we keeping people out cuz they can't read or have low SAT scores it
doesn't hurt their self-esteem it's a shame yeah I say teeth have been
proven to be false there are no indication of how people will do after a
few years of college so throw out the test absolutely because if people are
given a chance they do excel so we should a lot more diversity more variety
in our schools in our sports yes I love this is it also a blow to your
self-esteem if say you have a diagnosed mental illness and you can't buy a
firearm why should schizophrenia get in the way of gun ownership everyone else
can buy one but you can't because you're diagnosed mentally ill that
discriminatory well I think that would hurt other people so I'm not for any
program that would hurt other people but programs that allow people to excel and
become better people than there's nothing wrong
with that but having a mental illness and then having a firearm which I mean
anyone having a firearm is probably not a good idea you're totally right you're
totally right I thought you would agree if you're a
narcoleptic why shouldn't you be a school bus driver
you would probably hurting others Board of Education after I think they're after
helping those who would be excluded because they didn't take gymnastics when
they were six or seven like we wish we had more time design many more examples
for you Kathy ruh but we don't let me see you good to see him we'll be back
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