Rudy Giuliani has told Fox News that he and president Trump have been going over
some of the questions Special Counsel Robert Muller wants to ask the president
but he says they won't agree to an interview until their conditions are met
including getting all available information on the FBI informant who met
with Trump campaign officials and the DOJ memo detailing the scope of the
Russia investigation this is Giuliani has launched a new
attack against the special counsel watch there is no evidence which I assume
there is no evidence then I mean he shouldn't testify the whole thing should
be squashed I mean it should be ended immediately you got a group there that
that's a lynch lynching mob so let them do their job and boy we're ready to
knock the heck out of you with our report which will be authoritative it'll
be backed up it'll be backed up with law and facts chief White House
correspondent John Roberts is live on the North Lawn with more on this John
Harris good afternoon tea I spoke with Rudy Giuliani earlier this morning about
all of this including the the prep sessions or whatever he's doing to get
the president prepared for a possible interview with robert muller Giuliani
telling me that while they have discussed some of the questions that
Muller wants answers to and some of the ground rules they haven't really begun
any of those you know typical so-called quote murder board
prep sessions that the president would be doing if he were to agree to an
interview with robert muller a lot of this has also been keeping up on the
daily flow of news but Rudy Giuliani as you alluded to did illuminate a couple
of what he described as red lines in order for the president to sit down and
do an interview with robert muller and that would be all of the memorandums all
of the intelligence on the confidential informant that made contact with several
members of the Trump campaign back in 2016 but the president is referring to a
spy gate and you also mentioned the quote the so called quote scope memo
rhod Rosenstein wrote that gave robert muller the special counsel the authority
to investigate and in what areas he would be able to investigate in here's
what Giuliani told our Sean Hannity last night I want to see the documents which
stray gawdy has never seen which is outrageous and I'm not going to let my
client testify the president United States even if he wants to without those
documents being produced if and when we find that this was handled appropriately
and and there's some evidence on which they could base this phony investigation
well we haven't testified yeah you might add you might take that that is a quite
a high bar that Muller would have to leap before a Giuliani and the president
and Jay Sekulow his other attorney agree to an interview and you would be right
they're definitely setting a high bar Giuliani spent about an hour with the
president last night said that they also talked frequently on the telephone he
was hoping to spend more time with the president this week but because North
Korea is now on a rolling boil that's taking up most of the president's time
Giuliani told me that they will likely do some sort of prep with the president
even if he doesn't agree to a sit-down interview with robert muller you heard
and talked about it earlier harris that the president's legal team is going to
be writing some sort of report either in response to the Moller report or just
the reports to get their side of the story out and they did they do want to
sit down with the president and go over in excruciating detail what it is that
he knows so that they can get that report as detailed as possible Giuliani
also told me he's not happy that the president brought up Jeff Sessions again
yesterday Giuliani feeling that they were really
making some headway with questioning that the whole genesis of the Russia
investigation possible misconduct and the part of some high-ranking officials
at the FBI and and now the president getting out there and smacking sessions
upside the head has just created an alternate narrative to where they were
going yes figuratively obviously you touched
on something and I'm about to talk with former Trump campaign manager Corey
Lewandowski so I'll bring this up with him you said that for the purpose of
this report that may come out that they're still going to do these practice
sessions or whatever we're calling them I just want to make sure I heard you
right yeah I think what they would what they would probably do is they would ask
the president the questions that Robert Muller wanted to ask him don't know how
many remember there were 52 in the latest list that was obtained by Fox
News just so that they get a full accounting of what the president knows
about all of the areas the robert muller wants to investigate so that when they
write their report they have a fully detailed and comprehensive recollection
from the president thank you for that appreciate it and now let's bring in
corey lewandowski author of the new york times bestseller
let Trump be Trump great to see you Cory let's start with the so-called practice
sessions prep sessions QA what do you think those are like I mean we got a few
week to information about some of the questions that might be asked but but
talk to me about what you think the process is like well you know and I have
no inside knowledge of this but what I think this is is the president's
attorney sitting down with him and having conversations of what potentially
the mahler investigative team would be asking him whether they agree to that
sit-down or not is irrelevant they want to make sure the president is thinking
through some of the questions that the Maher team has submitted over
understanding and recalling what may or may not be on the agenda remember this
investigation goes back now to the beginning of what was really the 2016
campaign but started on June in June of 2015 so you're now three years ago of
when the campaign actually launched and so having the opportunity to recall some
of the facts that the multi may be interested in would be my guess of what
his attorneys are trying to talk to him about interesting so you saw Rudy
Giuliani he does not mince words and he said look September 1st you got to wrap
up this investigation he has a high bar for whether the president will sit down
with him I want to talk about Robert Miller though and get your thoughts on
whether or not you you think he would ever bow to any pressure you know up
from what I know of Bob wah he's man who has a lot of integrity and I
think he is concerned about the potential impact in the midterm
elections that being said I would expedite the report that the mauler team
is going to put out if they have finished their interviews with the
individuals who they want to talk to except the president it sounds like they
have the opportunity now to have that report basically concluded and that's
very important because you don't want to politicize this issue any more than it's
already been done and if the investigation is done or very close to
done the mower team should finish that report submitted to the Department of
Justice and have that finalized by Labor Day Cory do you think that Giuliani gets
it right when he says that the president will not fire Jeff sessions or Robert
Muller I do I think I you know and again I haven't spoken to the president
directly about it but I think this president is allowing the Mahler team to
finish their investigation to prove what we already know there was no collusion
between the Trump campaign and the Russians or anybody else for that matter
Donald Trump won this election in a blowout with over 300 electoral votes
there was no collusion here whatsoever and the president wants to make sure the
American people are reminded of that and Bob mowers team has to remind the
American people that there was only one campaign that took campaign money and
went and used it overseas to put together a false dossier and that was a
Clinton campaign do you think the president sits down you heard Giuliani
FBI informant information and he wants the DOJ documents that even congressman
trey Gowdy has not seen your last words look I would not recommend the president
sitting down with Bob Muller you know as we know what his condition yeah I don't
think so look there was no collusion the modern investigators had the opportunity
to sit down with dozens if not hundreds of individuals to ask them questions I'm
sure they've all gotten the same answer no collusion between the President and
Russia or anyone else for that matter so there's no value in my opinion of the
president sitting down with the Mahler team yeah politically may be a different
story we'll talk about that on a different day Corey Lewandowski thank
you great to see you thank you new details now about that confidential memo
that former deputy FBI director Andrew McCabe wrote and turned over to the
Special Counsel Robert Muller will tell you what's in it and the impact that
this could have on the Russia investigation Joe
andrew napolitano will weigh in after the commercial break plus president
Trump imposing sweeping new tariffs on steel and aluminum imports from the
European Union Canada and Mexico he says he wants fair trade fair for the United
States how are the nations responding next this is developing we're learning
new details about a confidential memo that former FBI director Andrew McCabe
turned over to Special Counsel Robert Muller that he wrote about James commis
firing a sources told Fox News the memo recounts a conversation McCabe had with
rod Rosenstein that led him to believe the Deputy Attorney General could be
trying to cover for president Trump chief intelligence correspondent
Catherine Herridge now in Washington first with the facts and the details
Catherine well thank you Harrison good afternoon a source familiar with the
memos tells Fox News that former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe documented
a meeting where Deputy Attorney General rod Rosenstein said President Trump
wanted Rosenstein to include Russia in the memo used to fire FBI director James
Comey last May Rosen's time we understand declined the
source said Rosenstein did give mccabe a copy of a draft letter firing Comey
written by President Trump and that letter has since been passed on to
Special Counsel Robert Muller as part of his investigation writing on Twitter
this morning the president said not that it matters but I never fired James Comey
because of Russia the corrupt mainstream media loves to keep pushing that
narrative but they know it's not true earlier today on Fox the president's
spokesman went further he said national television it's because
of James commis handling of the Clinton investigation and the the letter that
the Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein had sent him there are also a
number of reasons he's leaked confidential information he gave false
statements under oath to Congress inter McCabe testified on
Capitol Hill earlier this year and was fired in March just days before his FBI
retirement after the Justice Department's internal watchdog concluded
McCabe lied to federal investigators multiple times about his media contact
before the 2016 election this report from Justice Department Inspector
General Michael Horowitz found that McCabe quote lacked
candor including under oath on multiple occasions the Inspector General also
concluded the McCabe's disclosure of the existence of an ongoing investigation in
the manner described in this report violated the FB i--'s and the
department's media policy and constituted misconduct for his part
McCabe disputes the findings telling the inspector general that his boss director
Comey knew about the outreach to the Wall Street Journal the inspector
general's findings were referred to the US Attorney here in Washington for
possible prosecution under what's called 18 USC 1001 which makes it a crime to
lie to federal investigators in the meantime we are expecting more from the
inspector general and his findings on the FBI and the Justice Department's
conduct leading up to the 2016 election specifically the Clinton email case and
that could happen really within the next week or so Harris all right Catherine
thank you very much Fox News senior judicial analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano
with me now let's start with rod Rosenstein is he in trouble over this
memo well he's not in trouble in that he's done anything wrong or he could be
prosecuted but his life could become very complicated more so than it already
is if it is determined that he needs to recuse himself now Jeff Sessions recused
himself on the Russian investigation why because he is a witness it now appears
that rod Rosenstein may be witness Attorney General Sessions a witness to
whether there was any Russian involvement Deputy Attorney General
Rosenstein a witness - did the president fire Jim Comey for a valid lawful
purpose or a corrupt purpose if the latter that's potentially obstruction of
justice you know in your kind of what I call a legal brief that you supply us
with sometimes you called this memo sophomoric
why do you term it that the memo that I referred to as sophomoric is the one
that rod Rosenstein gave to the President to justify the firing of Jim
Comey because the reason given was Jim Comey's not recommending the prosecution
of Hillary Clinton the reason I call sophomoric is because if that is the
true reason then Hillary Clinton should have been prosecuted by the Jeff
Sessions Justice Department and she Ben and the statute of limitations are
ticking away I on a random around we go so if we look at the situation and
actually have two men were recusing themselves why wouldn't the president
fire them because rod Rosenstein is supposed to be the backup I mean he's
the deputy AG and you read such and I realized that it's for different reasons
why a potential recusal would happen in his part I mean but it's complicated
this would brand this would be unprecedented in American history this
would happen AG in the deputy AG were correct Wow Wow so many DOJ assets are
being devoted to an investigation of the President himself this is clearly the
biggest thing going on in the DOJ there are 90,000 employees in the DOJ this is
this is a huge project that Bob Muller runs he's his boss would be someone no
one's ever heard of not someone really accountable to the public
you mean if both these men are removed the next person in line who's been
confirmed by the Senate it has to be a member of the hierarchy who's been
confirmed by the Senate there's a guy named Noel Francisco not a household
name he is the Solicitor General of the United States he is an academic who
argues before the Supreme Court suddenly he's going to be in charge of the
biggest criminal investigation in the modern era where the target or subject
is the President and just because we don't know him right doesn't mean he
can't do it and look we don't know if fraud Rosenstein is going to recuse
himself but if what you're saying today is true and plays out he's really in a
complicated position yes and all of this comes down to the following the
President of the United States under the Constitution is the chief law
enforcement officer in the land and he is entitled to an attorney general who
has his trust and confidence and he hasn't had that yes what's called the
president's the former president's wingman I mean that's kind of how that's
the kind of language that they were using relationship Nixon and Mitchell
had even though Mitchell went to jail Bobby and Jack Kennedy there yeah well
that's a little different because that was familiar but yes of course the best
Justice Department's have been run when there
is this close relationship between them so they each know what the other is
doing it Donald Trump hasn't had that well and it's created the situation
where you can't get certain documents with Rudy Giuliani saying if I don't get
those DOJ documents that's the deal-breaker for sitting down does
complicate it equal compromised yeah I guess is where we're going with it I
hope not there there have been some accusations against Rod Rosenstein that
he is doing things at the behest of the president so that he won't get fired
even though those things are not technically speaking consistent with DOJ
policy that's where complicated gets compromised is he compromising his
integrity is he compromising the quasi Independence of the DOJ to reply to the
president's tweets Wow I'll leave it there right and so will you judge great
to see you Thank You hours stocks are down today as the White House
has announced it will end tariffs exemptions on steel and aluminum for the
EU Canada and Mexico what Commerce Secretary will will Rossa
saying about the further negotiations as the EU vows retaliation
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