welcome to waters world I'm Jesse waters the debate over kneeling during the
national anthem once again at fever pitch after President Trump canceled the
White House event honoring the Super Bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles many
players had planned to boycott so instead President Trump threw a party
honoring America and the national anthem we love our country we respect our flag
and we always proudly stand for the national anthem we always will stand for
the national anthem we stand to honor our military and to honor our country
and to remember the fallen heroes who never made it back home we stand to show
our love for our fellow citizens and our magnificent Constitution we stand to pay
tribute to the incredible Americans who came before us and the heroic sacrifices
they made and we proudly stand for our glorious nation under God while the
president took the high road CNN took the low one accusing the president of
being fake this isn't about some fake patriotism about standing or some
pageantry real patriotism is understanding what the Constitution
means for all Americans real patriotism is understanding that all of us are
created equal and we have the choice to stand kneel or sit or even attend a
football game if we choose to it wasn't fake patriotism I was actually there and
I really don't appreciate being lectured on what real patriotism is by CNN's Don
Lemon but former NFL wide receiver TJ whose manzara
went one step further suggesting Trump's a racist as a black athlete it's
somewhat you can't go you can't go the president is demean the
african-american players so much you can't go to the White
two players joining me now with their reaction former New York giant Jason
Sehorn and Jack brewer who played for the Philadelphia Eagles Jack what do you
think about TJ's commentary there about black players can't go to the White
House it seems completely preposterous in my opinion you know listen I don't
like a lot of the things that President Trump says either
I mean he's pissing me off on several occasions but I've been to the White
House and I'll go back because I want to talk about these issues I actually think
that you know you can have a conversation with President Trump and
and hopefully that we can find a way to bridge this gap I mean we're all
Americans we're in the same family families fight
families quarrel but you got to talk about it and that's the approach that I
take I don't understand why the Philadelphia Eagles players then didn't
take the opportunity Jason to go to the White House and if they want to have a
conversation with the president that would seem like the place to do it right
it would have been the perfect opportunity for them to get their
message across because what I've been confused by this whole thing is you know
we have parkland shooting at issues and so people defend the Second Amendment
but they don't want to defend the First Amendment the First Amendment it gives
you the right the freedom of speech to to protest and that's all they're doing
it's not about black/white it's like it's about though when you call them a
racist like there's a different races 'im and prejudiced now we can go back
and forth between the two on him but I don't believe he's a racist he might be
prejudiced you might say some things that are demeaning I get it but what I'm
thinking here is the players could have had a platform bigger than no other than
the White House to get their message across to that man himself and I believe
they disrespected the office of the presidency Jack you know it's not about
the person that occupies the office it's about the office itself and to showboat
and to say you're gonna have 60 guys down there and then the night before say
you know what we're only gonna have six it's just not the right way to do it
yeah I mean I don't know enough about the details of how that happened I mean
it was really unfortunate to hear that only six guys are gonna be going you
know particularly because if you look at the Philadelphia Eagles in their
ballclub I mean from the Fergana Leader Malcolm Jenkins who I
is one of the greatest black leaders of our time right now Chris long gave up
his entire year's salary to help help help the kids I mean these guys are out
there in the community doing good work and the fact of the matter is is every
single one of those guys stood up for the national anthem each and every game
and so you know this this this this is confusing me I just don't understand why
the Philadelphia Eagles ballclub and Donald Trump aren't communicating I mean
it seems like you know they they agree on a lot of issues I just think in front
of the lights and the cameras they're going at each other and it could have
been handled in a much better way I've asked and you know this jesse we talked
before I've asked for Donald Trump to please bringing our black athletes to
the White House and let's have a conversation and that's heal this nation
that sounds like a good idea and the president just earlier offered a little
bit of an olive branch Jason to some of the athletes that had been kneeling
during the national anthem and here's what he said a lot of people in the NFL
in particular but in sports leagues they're not proud enough to stand for
our National Anthem I don't like that for the league's if they have people if
the players if the athletes have friends of theirs or people that they know about
that have been unfairly treated by the system let me know and if I find and my
committee finds that they're unfairly treated then we will pardon them or at
least let them out I think that was a great idea by the president to say let's
move forward in a positive way and if the kneeling deal is supposed to be
about police mistreatment of black Americans or the criminal justice system
is treating black Americans give me an example of when that's happened and
perhaps will pardon that individual well I think there's plenty of examples but
what I think would be more important for the two sides to come together and
understand what it is exactly they're trying to get across all right I don't
think they have disrespect for our country or our flag for that matter I
think they're just choosing a way to protest we've given him that right with
the First Amendment yeah I spoken to two different military people and they both
said I disagree with the way they're doing this 100% and I think what's the
problem their actual message of what they're
trying to get across is being lost and the way they're going about it so right
they said hey I fought for their right to do that so they can do that fine but
come together so that the two sides can get their message across so this isn't
about kneeling it's about the social injustice of colored people in America
that's the biggest issue here it's not the kneeling I would this protest is
supposed to get the message out right right well no I believe it's a failed
protest because if no one knows what you're protesting and everybody believes
you're disrespecting the flag and the anthem then your protest has failed
because they did it at the wrong time if you're going to talk about social
justice do it on waters world do it on ESPN there's plenty of outlets for you
to do that and Jack I don't think that was the right time or the place to do
that I'll give you the last word yeah I mean you make some great points both to
you you know I wish we could go protest in front of the police departments that
let these cops off I think we should go protest on Capitol Hill which a lot of
players are doing we are do those things I mean you two gentlemen are I hit the
nail on the head we got to come together at the end of the day man
Jesse thank you for being a voice all right Jack Jason maybe we could do the
summit at the White House one of these days I'll see you guys there I'll be
there all right here with more counselor to the President and Philadelphia native
Kelly Anne Conway Kelly Ann what do you think about the idea of bringing in some
athletes to the White House to have a dialogue with the president about these
issues regarding kneeling and criminal justice well this is a president that
has invited so many people right left and center to this White House over the
16 months that he's been here you see the issues that we work on that are
politically charged and the issues you work on that are decidedly nonpartisan
the opioid crisis that I helped lead here prison reform that's getting new
life through Jared Kushner and folks like Van Jones and this president has
pardoned folks who were asked to be pardoned by other presidents who failed
to do so when he's very open to differing opinions and viewpoints he's a
master negotiator and deal maker that includes with whom he has discussions I
will tell you something that not a lot of people know which is when the
Philadelphia Eagles were first going to come they
arrested policy time and the president said okay let's have policy time and the
people I think who wanted it most weren't coming to the White House Wow so
they got the policy time and then backed off the policy time that just doesn't
make sense at all what's the point then well I think the point is some people
requested action that they thought would never be taken and the president called
their bluff and said hey yeah I'd love to talk about it well he didn't just
call their bluff he granted their request any wanted to do we thought each
other was bluffing we thought it would be a serious conversation but that
conversation to be had any time this president just yesterday morning as he
was leaving for the g7 on the South Lawn talked and said I understand why some of
these players are kneeling they're concerned about criminal justice and
social justice and they should even give me let's have a conversation about it
and by the way if they have any ideas of people who have been treated unfairly by
the justice system they should come forward and give me ideas for pardons he
said I will review those files I look at those cases now just to go back to
something you and I were discussing the some of the players that requested the
policy time were not part of the smaller group who said that they were coming
there were Eagles players who were willing to come here and talk about
their work their great work with respect to autism the Eagles have raised in
short order 2.5 million dollars for autism that's great some of these some
of these players and management at the Eagles have personal connection to
autism I think that's terrific that dr. Collins at NIH and dr. Gordon ni MH were
willing to come forward are willing to come forward and talk to the
Philadelphia Eagles and anyone else who wants to discuss the 216 million dollars
or so I believe that the government is spending on this this year so so anyway
it's we could do that any time that people some people want to have the
conversations away from the White House and keep the issues alive yeah and some
people want to actually come into the white that's surprising to hear and
resolve the issue that is very surprising to hear decision that they
wanted policy time and then backed out of it I just can't believe it I'm very
disappointed in the Philadelphia Eagles but I think yes
that's not all the eat I know people are really acting in great faith that's true
I just hope maybe when the Eagles repeat as Super Bowl champs maybe they can come
back and have that policy time speaking of Philadelphia the mayor over there
Mayor Kenny you know total hotdog he said some very disparaging things about
the president United States during the Eagles kerfuffle at the White House and
then some small ball judge said that the Philadelphia City can be a sanctuary
City here was his reaction to that
I mean how pathetic is this guy well it's really pathetic for a couple of
reasons Philadelphia under this mayor's watch
has seen an increase in homicides they increased dramatically
recently the statistics show that Philadelphia has the 12th highest rate
in the country and also the drug uses way up and I wanted to make something
very clear there was a criminal alien in Philadelphia that was released and he
forced his girlfriend into a hot oven I think you've got to come up with these
shock the conscience example that's also what some of these individuals who are
being harbored in and then released by these sanctuary cities are actually
doing so this man is doing the J by the way it doesn't even dance while he
dances as well as he presides over the city which is really poor doing a jig
low criminal illegals are putting people in ovens I mean that's just listen by
the way with this the other problem with sanctuary cities it doesn't get enough
coverage and this will happen in Philadelphia I guarantee you is that
there's so much poison being harbored not just the people the criminal aliens
who in the case of Kate Steinle and others ended up murdered because people
should not been in this country should not have been allowed back in so many
times were and now this folks are I've been assaulted or worse killed the
poison that sits in these sanctuary cities Lawrence Massachusetts Lowell
Massachusetts you hear many people often complaining that the poison sits there
it gets driven right or we get you could drive it right over the border into New
Hampshire so the sanctuary cities are a bad deal sanctuary states in California
though I mean that's even worse pushing back against that yeah one of
those cities in Southern California the pushing back pending not celebrating
yeah well criminal aliens yeah well he's a joke and everybody knows it and in a
few hours the president's going to be landing in Singapore for his historic
face-to-face with jung-hoon and I think he said he wasn't really gonna prepare
for the summit let's hear what he had to say I think I'm very well prepared I
don't think I have to prepare very much it's about the attitude it's about
willingness to get things done but I think I've been preparing for this
summit for a long time you know he got hit for this five people over at CNN but
it's pretty simple what we want they have to denuclearize and then we lift
the sanctions I don't know how much preparation there is needed for that
Kellyanne by the way he also told one of those CNN reporters that she was
unprepared but anyhow I think when the president says I don't need to prepare
he means much more because obviously it's through the president's leadership
and stewardship that secretary Pompeo has been over to North Korea two times
already unbeknownst to the media both times and including the release of this
three American detainees who are back home and really get preparing for this
summit obviously the president's been involved with the north
talks about North Korea since he got here since we're actually when he was
running for president and it's President Obama who told President Trump North
Korea's going to be your biggest problem yeah so it's not that the president just
decided yesterday to read up on North Korea this is all because of his
leadership it's true the president says something else is very important here
Jesse he said it's not going to be one meeting it could be two three four or
five six and people have to recognize that - you don't undo seventy years of
war and the do denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula in a single sit-down no
I mean like they say in Philadelphia Kelly Anne trust the process gotta go
coming up we caught a leaker finally
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