that's book the three of them are all worth a great read Harvard Law Professor
Alan Dershowitz good to see you both let me begin with you
Andy McCarthy on your piece if the lawyer gives them 30 hours the White
House Counsel the president goes in remember George papadopolis Lieutenant
General Flynn lying and the FBI didn't think that Flynn was lying Papadopoulos
is basically a non-player kid in all this why would the president think
anything but a perjury trap awaits him
Sean I think that that's obviously what the problem is for him here we have a
history of this investigation where you know one person remembers something one
way somebody else remembers in a different ways the same thing happened
with general Flynn you know first they decide he's telling the truth
then they decide that he's not 30 hours of conversation about what the president
was saying and what he was thinking in connection with the very actions that
Muller is looking into if the president were to go in and submit to an interview
if he remembers anything differently from the way that his attorney remembers
that the White House Counsel then may have a conflict and as I've tried to
point out those who say that an innocent person doesn't have anything to worry
about or an honest person doesn't have anything to worry about speaking to a
prosecutor are nuts because it's the prosecutor not the honest person yeah
who decides whether you're being honest Andy let's be clear when Rudy said this
weekend and I would argue it's inarticulate you know the the truth is
not the truth what he did what he was clearly saying was I would argue legal
jargon as a former prosecutor he knows well that you're gonna have say Dom
again has one story the president says one thing that's different the person
that will decide what is the truth will be the special counsel that we all know
is predisposed against Donald Trump so that is that is clear as day what he
meant in articulate but he's right
yeah that's the point he's trying to make it's the prosecutor who's the
arbiter of the truth and that doesn't mean the prosecutor is right it just
means that's the way the system is set up yeah and professor Dershowitz I got
to get you to Winnie in here this is a this is really why would it why would
the White House Council ever give them 30 hours mm-hmm well I think he the
originally the original plan of the Trump defense team was to cooperate in
the hope that the investigation would quickly end that hope has been dashed
but going back to Rudy Giuliani for a second I have an article on gatestone
today which I say when the truth isn't the truth making exactly the same point
that Andy made a point that I've been making now for three months that in
order to fall into a perjury trap all you need is one witness who contradicts
one statement bingo that the person says to the prosecutor that witness can be
somebody who is singing composing who has flipped who has a deal who's been
told either you're gonna die in prison are you gonna tell us what we want to
hear and any defense lawyer who would ever walk a client into a perjury trap
under those circumstances this is have his license reconsidered let me ask you
a question I was asking Gregg earlier professor and that is this what Paul
might afford be being prosecuted now but for all this honor nothing to do with
Russia no collusion nothing to do with Trump doesn't do with the campaign and
then the same goes for general Flynn then the same goes for Papadopoulos and
the same really goes for Michael Kohn isn't that true that this is selective
prosecution or what you call the criminalization of political differences
well you don't have to ask me that question asked judge Ellis who's
presiding over the mana for case he has stated publicly that the special counsel
is not interested in metaphors alleged crimes they're only interested in
squeezing him in order to get him to flip and to either sing or compose those
words used by judge Ellis against the president the same thing is Cohen
medallions what is medallions have to do not with the scope of the special
investigation now therein the a to him in the Southern District of
New York but they're clearly cooperating but my possession tells us because all
of this right these people Rudi's work there and ii will give you
the last word I'm really beginning to have more problems than I ever thought
with our criminal justice system a guy that's facing a hundred years key
witness in the matter for case really sounds like form of bribery to me mm-hmm
yeah well look Shawn I I think part of the reason that the jury may be having
trouble with the case is the way it was teed up for them Muller makes a deal
with gates who basically gets a walk for the same conduct this guy man afford may
spend the rest of his life in jail on you guys have both done question
survivors are finally seeing the light about this that conservatives are
finally being crackling the justices in some way something they were right I was
wrong Tommy Lehren next
my name is Jimmy Lehren hit the streets Los Angeles to find out what people
really know about socialism watch this
yes what do you think about it I love it that's social we love about it I like to
socialize with everybody we're not socialized socialism I'm not
really sure what socialism actually is so socialism is basically an economic
system and where everybody's equal there's no rich and there's no oh really
good it's kind of like what Cuba does I'm not quite so clear on the exact
definition of socialism but I think it's important that it isn't just every man
for himself I don't know because socialism's worked
in some places you know the difference between a Democrat a socialist
honestly no how do you feel about socialism sir it's great I just got back
from here four weeks in Europe free health care good schools it's wonderful
free free everything you think that we have to pay for it recent poll just came
out saying that Democrats now view socialism more favorably than they view
capitalism what are your thoughts doesn't make any sense socialism is
ridiculous I'm for it you're for socialism I am for
it why because I think everybody should have a fair opportunity for health care
and yeah this fair mean free fair means free do you hear any your friends
talking about socialism nope they don't talk about politics at all nope you know
Bernie Sanders is yes he believes in socialism
Bernie Sanders supporter I don't like Donald Trump so why not anything not
Donald Trump is okay yep there are some Democrats mostly who believe socialism
should replace capitalism do you think that's ever gonna happen
personally I do not think that's ever gonna happen i think capitalism is
fantastic it gives every American an opportunity to earn an income thank you
so much two people got it right - it was reaction or throw the brand-new book why
we fight Fox News national security strategist talk to Sebastian corker and
former Secret Service agent NRA TV contributor Dan bungee no his brother I
met today is much better-looking and smarter than him I'm just teasing
dr. korkor let's start with you your what's your reaction to that because
that is the modern Democratic Party it's stunning strong we're both old enough to
remember November the 9th 1989 where thanks to the good offices of Ronald
Reagan Margaret Thatcher and st. John Paul the second the captive people of
East Germany with their own hands took down the Berlin Wall we thought
communism socialism had had a stake driven through its heart but it's like
those zombies in those horror movies it's coming back and these people don't
know I mean Ocasio Cortez Bernie Sanders don't know that Lenin and Marx said
socialism is just the way point on on on the on the way to communism communism is
the objective of socialism is what Lenin said and the stunning thing is Margaret
Thatcher was right socialism is great until you run out of
everybody else's money just like you've seen Venezuela sure I used the same
quote often and we're running out of people other people's money damn banjee
no and it's kind of shocking I mean there's there's a pretty big percentage
of the electorate that I don't think really understands the difference now
they don't I'm reminded of that scene from Billy Madison you know we're all
Dumber for having seen that John socialism is not free stuff so
ilysm is death its despair its starvation it is the government control
the means of production Europe and Denmark and Scandinavian and Nordic
countries are not socialist socialism is for imbeciles don't be an imbecile
these are capitalist countries with high taxes if you want to argue about taxes
we can argue with the left about taxes but Denmark Scandinavia and Europe these
are not socialist countries these are capitalist economies where the
government does not own the means of production it just taxes the snot out of
its citizens I wish these people would wake up and read a book talk to Gorka
yeah this this is the great myth none of these countries are socialist countries
the land of BMW in Germany the land of Volvo in Sweden the land of Nokia sorry
these are capitalist capitalist states that tax their people a lot but on
communist States and on socialist states and and the other thing is we've
protected them for 70 years so they have the capacity to choose butter over guns
now they're in trouble when they have to defend themselves so it's a Fantasyland
it's Alice in Wonderland Shawn you both get a plus tonight quoting Margaret
Thatcher dr. korkor and taxing the snot out of the damp
arena I did meet my brother today he is better-looking smarter and younger just
saying yes he's not smarter he's definitely better-looking though but
he's not smart
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