Fox News Alert President Trump is signaling that a North Korean summit
could still happen next month let's go outnumbered over time I'm
Melissa Francis in for harris faulkner the president's remarks come just days
after announcing the US was pulling out of the high-stakes meeting with North
Korea scheduled for June 12th saying Kim jong-un's regime had broken several
promises including failing to show up to a planning meeting in Singapore
but North Korean state media quoting a leader who says the country remains open
to talks with the US and president Trump says his administration has reopened
dialogue with the North now we'll see what happens it could even be the 12th
we're talking to them now they very much want to do it we'd like to do it we're
gonna see what happens but Democrats are slamming the president's decision to
cancel the summit in the first place I think everyone understands that the only
way to resolve this is through diplomacy there is no military option without
extreme risks so it's puzzling that the president has now thrown the diplomacy
off-track and there's always a risk of a miscalculation Greg Powell Todd is live
in Seoul South Korea with the latest Greg
melissa i can tell you that the folks here in this region are watching very
closely the back-and-forth about a possible summit between kim jeong-hoon
and president Trump they have a huge stake in it all we heard from the
Chinese foreign ministry on Friday they say they hope the US and the North Korea
stay patient and meet each other halfway and press ahead with denuclearization on
the peninsula remember president from feared that Chinese President Xi got in
the ear of Kim Jong lunar changed his tune we also heard from the Japanese
Prime Minister Abe aid today he said about a possible cancellation of the
summit that it was regrettable but that he respected and supported the decision
most important again to get rid of the nukes from North Korea remember haba is
a huge ally of President Trump as for Kim jong-un we saw him today riding a
train at least state media presented images of that his regime remember early
on Friday said that they would meet the u.s. face-to-face anytime any place is
coming after the rebuke from president from South Korean government or in Seoul
have so much invested they of course want this summit to be resurrected as
for that nuke site event remember that one on Thursday is supposed to be the
big news guy got a bit lost in all the events of Thursday would you have new
images today from our sister network in the UK Sky News they were one of the
teams invited to the site showing massive blasts at the northeastern part
of the country area tunnels portals used in past nuclear chess the hitches as we
have been saying as our sky colleagues pressed North Korean officials on the
ground about their work no independent observers or experts the reporters could
examine the aftermath they could see what was left but they really couldn't
confirm the claims of the regime and remember just a couple hours after this
happened President Trump called off the summit in Singapore or maybe he did back
yeah Greg pound cop thank you for that for more on this let's bring in
congressman brad sherman he's the ranking Democrat on the House Foreign
Affairs Committee on Asia and the Pacific sir thank you so much for
joining us what do you make of the back and forth here what do you make of these
latest comments well maybe the summit happens maybe it
doesn't but I think we've put ourselves in a bad position where we would be
blamed for the summit's cancellation what we should have done is simply
announced that we were delaying the summit to a date not designated and say
the reason for it was that they didn't show up to the planning meeting if they
don't show up to the planning meeting it's hard to plan and get things done by
June 12th but by canceling it it makes them look like they're more interested
in peace than we are that's a mistake but the the other mistake is that we
have yet to sanction major Chinese banks that are doing business with North Korea
so we have a weakened congressman you know the president was criticized before
this by acting like a saying that he was acting like he was too eager that he
looked like a pushover he counters that by walking away from the table and then
he gets criticized for that too it makes it seem like you know folks on the other
side of the aisle are gonna criticize him for anything well if you veer off
the road to the right and damage your car and then you veer off the road to
the left and you damage your car people are gonna criticize you for not
driving in the lane driving on the road he is verge extreme one extreme to the
other what he should do is strengthen our hand
by having serious sanctions and I know Wall Street will object to that and have
reasonable bargaining objectives when he comes to the United what is a reasonable
bargaining objective in your mind because that's another criticism has
been that he has to demand total teen denuclearization at least this decade
and into next decade our objective should be freeze their program and
monitor it make sure that they don't conduct the final tests they need to
have an ICBM that can reach the US mainland and make sure that they don't
have so many nuclear weapons that they feel they have a
surplus and might sell them to other even more dangerous forces that should
be our objective but when we put forward the Libya model where Qaddafi was killed
by his people in the most brutal brutal way you can watch the tape I and he was
killed because we had destroyed his army through our air raids and so his enemies
were there to to kill him putting forth that is the model and saying that's our
negotiating position that's what's going to happen I can't imagine that we're
going to achieve that in negotiations the Libya model was used as a way of
saying that they were going to take the product of their nuclear program and
bring them back for verification the fact that he was murdered later wasn't
part of that original plan anyway obviously but they walked that back
afterwards anyway I mean what you're talking about sounds similar to the deal
that was negotiated with Iran which our allies didn't like was too soft we found
out later they lied about their intentions I mean it that gets us into
the same position that we're in with Iran we won't get as good a deal from
North Korea as we got from Iran and now as you point out wasn't as good a deal
as we should be striving for north Korea has say 20 nuclear weapons
it has a a leadership that is able to oppress its people efficiently and to
think that they're going to give up their nuclear weapons after Qaddafi gave
up his incipient program and was killed by his own people yes but with United
States Air Force assistance that isn't going to happen we can make ourselves
safer if we can stop them before they develop an ICBM and limit the number of
nuclear weapons so the idea that they're going to get rid of all of them
sets Trump up for failure so no wonder we try for that I want to make sure that
I heard you right and that we have you on record you you do not believe that a
deal will be done that's better than the deal that we had with Iran you think
that a deal the president comes to will be a worse deal in terms of their
nuclear program than what we had with Iran a consider
we worse in that right now north Korea has say 20 nuclear weapons they will
probably have 20 nuclear weapons in two or three years and in all likelihood
Iran will have zero nuclear weapons in two or three years and that is in large
part because of the deal and the pressure campaign that was put together
by Obama now I didn't vote for that Iran deal because I think we that that our
sanctions had been effective enough that we could have gotten a better deal and
there are ways to get a better deal but to think that we are going to have North
I ran with six or seven thousand centrifuges and North Korea is going to
have you any idea what Iran has they won't let anyone in to look or inspect
we have no idea what exists there where they are in their program because we
were promised Anytime Anywhere inspections and that was alive from our
former president debating the Iran deal we have a much better your no you're the
one that brought it up but in any case the Iran deal we do get the classified
briefings we have a level of confidence that we know how many centrifuges they
are operating at the present time there are truly we should have even better
inspections but we have inspections of every site where we have convinced our
allies that there's reason to investigate and but putting aside the
Iran deal the north for us to say we're going to demand that they immediately
get rid of all their nuclear weapons or we're not going to negotiate is too
extreme no I lied criticizing the president for not demanding that clearly
and now you're saying it's unreasonable to demand it so there's a lot of
opinions all over the place we thank you for your time we'll see what happens
from here I hope you'll join us I'm not here to represent a party I'm here to
and to put forth some good ideas on what we should do with North Korea sir thank
you appreciate your time joining us now with
more insight is Lester months and former staff director of the Senate Foreign
Relations Committee he's a senior fellow at the National Security Institute as
well what do you make of movements that we saw yesterday and then the sort of
how it sounds a little different today well Melissa I think it's a very good
thing that the president decided to walk essentially walk away from the
negotiating table when he realized that the negotiations were not going in the
right direction I wish the his predecessor had been
willing to do that on the Iran nuclear deal I think we would have gotten a
better deal if President Obama had been willing to walk away from the table it
actually gives me a lot of hope that the current discussions with North Korea and
with China are going to lead to something productive at the end of the
day yet I don't know if you heard congressman brad Sherman before you he
feels confident that this will result in a worse deal than the Iran deal yeah I
think he's wrong about that I do give him a little credit for being opposed to
the Iran deal from several years ago and he's correct that we should be putting
more pressure on Chinese economic entities I think he's right about that
but I think he's wrong in his analysis of the diplomacy I think this is a good
thing that's happened over the last couple months we've sussed out from the
North Koreans what they're looking for we know about the role of China now
which is essentially any path to a deal with Pyongyang is gonna have to go
through Beijing that's very clear now and we've also let the world know what
the u.s. position is which is very which is also a very good thing so and
congressman Sherman before you was saying that there's no way we should
demand total denuclearization we should just have a freeze for a period of time
that we can go in and verify would that be good enough for the world community
well right now what we should be demanding is our maximum reasonable
desire out of these negotiations and that's the denuclearization of the
Korean Peninsula we should be pushing for that if in the course of events over
the next year or so we get to a place where it's something slightly less than
that but we can verify that it's a good deal for the United States well then
that's fine but we should be pushing for the maximum possible benefits
it's an impossible benefit because he said a 20-year freeze was the best that
we could hope for I don't think that's right we need to we need to work with
China we need to work with our allies in the region in Seoul and in Tokyo to come
up with a plan that will come for an arrangement on the Korean Peninsula
that's beneficial to everyone and we're gonna have there's no question we'll
have to make some compromises along the way but there's no reason we shouldn't
ask for a denuclearization of the North right now that's actually very good for
China and it's good for us but denuclearization of the North what does
that mean do you want to give her everything out I mean that's exactly
what the stumbling block was along the way I mean if you listen to congressman
Sherman it had to do with the fact that that john bolton mentioned the libya
model if you talk to others you know the president hasn't hasn't been clear
enough and we don't mean the same thing that the North Koreans do when we use
that word denuclearization which is hard enough to say much less define that's
right well that's the negotiation that's going on right now we're defining our
wants on denuclearization and so is North Korea I suspect what they're
really testing is how much we'll negotiate with ourselves before we
actually sit down at the table if we negotiate with ourselves and end up with
a 20-year freeze then they know that they're going to do even better than
that once they get to the table we should stop negotiating with ourselves
we should take a hard line at least until the negotiations start and try to
get the maximum benefit for us and the maximum benefit for the United States is
for the is for North Korea to get rid of its nuclear weapons program so that's
interesting you talk about negotiating with yourself and that's what it sounded
like when Mike Pompeo sat down before lawmakers and they were trying to pin
him down on what exactly what he's he gonna demand and said that they didn't
feel like he was ready he said we've been rocking and rolling and they said
well you need to come out here and lay out exactly what you are going to ask
for you call that negotiating with ourselves what would you say to
Democrats who say you got to sit there and lay out what exactly you're gonna go
and ask him for I think it's will look in the grand scheme of things I think
it's good that Congress is very interested in this issue for all the
Democrats who are pushing the administration to reduce its demands
there are a number of Republicans who want even tougher demands Republicans on
the hill were very tough on the administrate
for being willing to restart the Chinese company ZTE which I guarantee you is
related to the North Korean salutely anyone who doesn't see that's related I
don't know they're not watching the same television shows there anyway that's
right thank you we appreciate your time we got to run the Republican House
chairman Devin Nunez and trey Gowdy reportedly did not receive the documents
that they requested from the Justice Department during those classified
briefings yesterday how will they respond and will they ever get the
information they want a member of the House Intelligence Committee joins me
after the break plus House Republicans ramping up their investigation into the
FBI's handling of the Hillary Clinton email probe the details on that and what
we can expect next what was going on at the FBI during this period of time when
director Comey was conducting an investigation that treated Hillary
Clinton and her associates in a very different way than the at the
investigation they subsequently launched against the Trump campaign and the
so-called Trump Russia collusion
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