Meghan McCain Crushes ESPN's Anti-Trump Jemele Hill: Is Ben Carson A White Supremacist?
please welcome ESPN's Jamel help here
for calling calling out the new guy in the White House over his response to the
rally in Charlottesville back in August since you're here tell us
what happened well like a lot of people I was feeling very emotional because
Charlotte feel that happened and I probably did what you shouldn't do when
you feel emotional a little angry is go to Twitter and I got into a dialogue
with a Twitter user and obviously everybody seen the tweets you know what
I've said and I did not expect in that moment that it was going to become what
it became I didn't expect everyone to be a hot topic and it just kind of
escalated from there so then it leads to I would see the president personally
calling me out in a tweet the White House calling or saying what I did was a
fireable offense so it was just it was a lot going on but were you just to clear
it up because there are some people that don't know what you tweeted you tweeted
well let the explanation finish what happened and then I can explain yeah no
I mean it that was really just the gist of it it's just being emotional going to
Twitter getting into back-and-forth and suddenly I became a walking thing peace
okay so you said Donald Trump is a Whites you tweet it Donald Trump is a
white supremacist who has largely surrounded himself with other white
supremacists yep and that was Charlotte's me right after Charlotte Wow
yes so that's what I said I was reacting responding in that moment so we've all
tweeted things and then myself included I've tweeted things in the heat of the
moment when I've been emotional it's something I've had to learn the hard way
not to do as I've grown in my career do you still stand by what you said and do
you think that President Trump supporters are white supremacists
I still stand by what I said I don't think that his supporters are white
supremacist what I would say though is that they have the privilege the benefit
of privilege to be able to distance and disassociate themselves from certain
issues me as a woman of color I feel vulnerable to certain behaviors certain
policies certain things that he said done and so all of that was part of that
response of feeling that vulnerability if it doesn't impact you directly or if
you don't feel that it's probably harder for you to understand it and so I just
asked those who do support him to understand that that perspective is
coming from that place it's not about calling you out necessarily it's about
the fact that in this time and in this moment it feels like people of color are
under attack
what would you say to a Ben Carson who's working in the administration is
obviously not white would you consider him a white supremacist no I mean I
wouldn't as I said I don't consider his supporters or every also just said you
stand by what you tweeted which is that he's surrounded by white supremacist but
I wasn't talking about Ben Carson I think we know the names that the
administration he does I didn't say he was surrounded by all everybody he was
surrounded by their whites or problem obviously Steve Ben and I can go down
the list of people who who have at very least played footsie with white
supremacist which would you do it again cuz I know
there was a second tweet that and we're friends yes you know there's second
tweet and you tweeted in October about the Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones who
indicated that players who protest during the national anthem would be told
not to play and you tweeted if you strongly reject what Jerry Jones said
the key is his advertisers don't place the burden squarely on the players and
you were suspended for that in two weeks would you do that again no I probably
wouldn't do that again I think and this is the problem with Twitter as we all
know Twitter is not a great place for nuance you know I wasn't specifically
calling for a boycott of the NFL or of Jerry Jones but I understand well how it
could be interpreted that way and no let's just be keep it 100 the my
employers in business with the NFL and some of those same advertises that Jerry
Jones has they also are advertisers of ESPN so I very much understood why I was
suspended it was not related to the Trump tweets it was more or less related
to that and and putting the company in a tough position you asked me you know
would I do it again and I would just do it a different way I wouldn't
to Twitter what I should have done especially because we were having all
these national conversations is gone to ESPN and asked if I could write a column
about it instead to kind of at least in a more widely you know with more breadth
and more depth explain my position yeah because what are you hundred forty
characters on what is the good thing about Twitter pray tell I think the
president tweets constantly and gets into trouble and then does crazy stuff
on Twitter you're getting in trouble people say crazy stuff you say you did
too oh I was younger what is the variance on that people continue to use
so because it seems like it's a destructive force rather than than a
constructive force so I I completely understand that viewpoint and there are
days where I wake up and I go to Twitter and I say oh my god the stupid people
have won you know however there are other times and other moments where
really amazing things happen like the Black Panther challenge that's an
amazing thing that started off as a social media engine and while I realize
it may not happen enough for your liking but there are positive interactions that
take place and I will say I reached out to you and all this going on personally
that by the way welcome because I also saw the stuff that you were on the
receiving end of I mean people were calling you the n-word they were calling
you the c-word it was started to think it was my middle
name yeah it was it was unbelievable to me the vitriol that you got for
basically giving your opinion much like we get how did you feel about that you
know unfortunately it's something I had to grow used to I'm sure you guys have
had to as well and I hate saying that we don't read it well but even still you
know it's out there you know it's out there right and so I hate to empower the
idiots that do it but you have to in this business to survive kind of have a
thick skin yeah you gotta have a very strict skin and you know you shouldn't
really read a lot of the tweets because what happens is people actually take
them to heart and start believing not yes and my question always is why would
you let somebody who doesn't know you affect you right that way because
they're they're they're mean and nasty so but you know you're here today we'll
be right back thank you god bless you and God bless america
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